Re: trans-Atlantic latency?

2007-06-29 Thread Peter Dambier
Neal R wrote: I have a customer with IP transport from Sprint and McLeod and fiber connectivity to Sprint in the Chicago area. The person making the decisions is not a routing guy but is very sharp overall. He is currently examining the latency on trans-Atlantic links and has fixed on the

Re: trans-Atlantic latency?

2007-06-29 Thread Leigh Porter
I used to get about 60ms from router to router in TAT12/13 (I think) from London Telehouse to NY Telehouse. Security Admin (NetSec) wrote: Sprint has probably the lowest latency in the industry; I use them for a Los Angeles - London IPSec VPN. Typical latency is around 140-150 ms rt

Re: trans-Atlantic latency?

2007-06-29 Thread Andy Ashley
Peter Dambier wrote: Neal R wrote: I have a customer with IP transport from Sprint and McLeod and fiber connectivity to Sprint in the Chicago area. The person making the decisions is not a routing guy but is very sharp overall. He is currently examining the latency on trans-Atlantic

Re: trans-Atlantic latency?

2007-06-29 Thread Jim Segrave
On Thu 28 Jun 2007 (18:20 -0500), Neal R wrote: I have a customer with IP transport from Sprint and McLeod and fiber connectivity to Sprint in the Chicago area. The person making the decisions is not a routing guy but is very sharp overall. He is currently examining the latency on

RE: trans-Atlantic latency?

2007-06-29 Thread Brian Knoll (TTNET)
A reasonable latency to expect between Chicago and London would be 92ms RTT. Brian Knoll -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neal R Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:21 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: trans-Atlantic latency? I have a

ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Barrett Lyon
Apparently GoDaddy does not support v6 glue for their customers, who does? I don't think requiring dual-stack v6 users perform v4 queries to find records is all that great. Any input would be helpful, -Barrett

Re: The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6

2007-06-29 Thread David Conrad
Christian, On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:37 AM, Christian Kuhtz wrote: Until there's a practical solution for multihoming, this whole discussion is pretty pointless The fact that a practical multihoming solution for IPv6 does not exist doesn't mean that the IPv4 free pool will not be exhausted.

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Barrett Lyon
One note here is that even though you can get glue into com/net/org using this method, there is no IPv6 glue for the root yet, as such even if you manage to get the IPv6 glue in, it won't accomplish much (except sending all IPv6 capable resolvers over IPv6 transport :) as all Unless I

Re: Thoughts on best practice for naming router infrastructure in DNS

2007-06-29 Thread Pete Ehlke
On Fri Jun 29, 2007 at 16:35:09 +0100, Neil J. McRae wrote: I remember in the past an excellent system using Sesame Street characters names. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2100.html

Re: v6 multihoming (Re: The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6)

2007-06-29 Thread Stephen Wilcox
Hi Nicolas, you will never make 2GB of traffic go down one STM4 or even 3x STM4! But you are asking me about load balancing amongst 3 upstreams... Deaggregation of your prefix is an ugly way to do TE. If you buy from carriers that support BGP communities there are much nicer ways to manage

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread JAKO Andras
;. IN NS A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 360 IN A 198.41.0.4 B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 360 IN A 192.228.79.201 C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 360 IN A 192.33.4.12 D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET. 360 IN A 128.8.10.90

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Edward Lewis
I'm pretty disappointed now, Searching the ICANN web site I found this: http://www.icann.org/committees/security/sac018.pdf Does anyone know what's been happening in the wake of that document? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis

IPv6 DNS

2007-06-29 Thread David Barak
--- Barrett Lyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't see any v6 glue there... Rather than having conversations about transition to IPv6, maybe we should be sure it works natively first? It's rather ironic to think that for v6 DNS to work an incumbent legacy protocol is still

Re: v6 multihoming (Re: The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6)

2007-06-29 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Nicolás Antoniello wrote: Hi Steve, Sure... I've never mention 3 STM4... the example said 3 carriers. OK, you may do it with communities, but if you advertise all in just one prefix, even with communities, I find it very difficult to control the trafic when it pass through 2 or more AS

Re: v6 multihoming (Re: The Choice: IPv4 Exhaustion or Transition to IPv6)

2007-06-29 Thread Nicolás Antoniello
Hi Joel, To use AS path prepend when you advertise just one prefix does not solve the problem...in this case it actually make it worth, 'cos you may find all your trafic coming from only one of your uplinks. Nicolas. On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Joel Jaeggli wrote: joelja Nicolás Antoniello wrote:

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Barrett Lyon wrote: If you deploy dual-stack, it is much easier to keep doing the DNS queries using IPv4 transport, and there is not any practical advantage in doing so with IPv6 transport. Thanks Jordi, not to sound too brash but, I'm already doing so. I am

Re: Thoughts on best practice for naming router infrastructure in DNS

2007-06-29 Thread Cat Okita
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Chris L. Morrow wrote: perhaps a decent other question is: Do I want to let the whole world know that router X with interfaces of type Y/Z/Q is located in 1-wilshire. I suppose on the one hand it's helpful to know that Network-A has a device with the right sorts of

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Edward Lewis
At 9:23 -0700 6/29/07, Barrett Lyon wrote: I would like to support v6 so a native v6 only user can still communicate with my network, dns and all, apparently in practice that is not easy to do, which is somewhat ironic given all of the v6 push lately. It also seems like the roots are not even

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 29-jun-2007, at 19:06, Edward Lewis wrote: I'm pretty disappointed now, Searching the ICANN web site I found this: http://www.icann.org/committees/security/sac018.pdf Does anyone know what's been happening in the wake of that document? Well: Additional study and testing is

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Barrett Lyon
there are providers that have (in the US even if that matters) ipv6 connected auth servers, that could even help. I can't seem to make one of them want to be a registrar too :( but... maybe Ultra/Neustar could do that for you? Neustar/Ultra's .org gtld registration services apparently do

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
My view is that deploying only IPv6 in the LANs is the wrong approach in the short term, unless you're sure that all your applications are ready, or you have translation tools (that often are ugly), and you're disconnected from the rest of the IPv4 Internet. I'm deploying large (5000 sites) IPv6

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Perry Lorier
One note here is that even though you can get glue into com/net/org using this method, there is no IPv6 glue for the root yet, as such even if you manage to get the IPv6 glue in, it won't accomplish much (except sending all IPv6 capable resolvers over IPv6 transport :) as all resolvers will

Re: ICANN registrar supporting v6 glue?

2007-06-29 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007, Barrett Lyon wrote: there are providers that have (in the US even if that matters) ipv6 connected auth servers, that could even help. I can't seem to make one of them want to be a registrar too :( but... maybe Ultra/Neustar could do that for you?