On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 06:20:54AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anything that we
can do to see a productive community meeting, a thoughtful
election, and meetings with the SC, PC and MLC that lead to a
better NANOG.
Quite frankly, if you are one of the uninitiated, and that
On 10/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do we determine what people do want to read vs. what they don't?
Do a survey.
We're going to.
-M
Stephen Wilcox wrote:
On 9 Oct 2007, at 18:39, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
Stephen Wilcox wrote:
i'm not sure that sounds like improvement. why cant the charter just
allow them to decide a presentation is worth having without going
through all the hoops that Paul mentions if its appropriate?
On 10-Oct-2007, at 1256, Sean Figgins wrote:
Spam, on the other hand, always seemed to be a scarlet topic here.
If someone mentions spam or mail servers, there are those here that
start breathing fire and claiming that their email should not be
subject to spam filters. I don't know that
On 10 Oct 2007, at 17:56, Sean Figgins wrote:
Spam, on the other hand, always seemed to be a scarlet topic here.
If someone mentions spam or mail servers, there are those here that
start breathing fire and claiming that their email should not be
subject to spam filters. I don't know
On 10 Oct 2007, at 17:56, Sean Figgins wrote:
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
We talk a lot about what is on-topic. I get why there is a
question about botnets - they affect the network, but don't really
relate to routing, so there are arguments on both sides. I'm a
bit more confused about
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do we determine what people do want to read vs. what they don't?
Do a survey.
We're going to.
-
Online? There're a lot of us that can't make it to the
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/10/07, Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do we determine what people do want to read vs. what they don't?
Do a survey.
We're going to.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably not feasible to do a non web forms based survey, but the list
users would be target. Lets be happy that one may get done at all. If
you dont have web, Ill call you and you and do it over phone.
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Perhaps instigate discussion on
I'm wondering if the new presentations could be encoded in xvid or ogg
vorbis. Or have a CD available after the conference for purchase or
download which has all the videos.
I'm specifically looking for a less yucky format and possibly higher rez
videos, and the possibility of encoding them in
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Sean Figgins wrote:
[adrian chadd]
These topics however seem altrustic ; why would someone talk about what
gives them an edge over their competitors?
If nobody ever talked about the above topics, then we would not have an
Internet today. Despite what CxOs may
On 10/10/07, Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably not feasible to do a non web forms based survey, but the list
users would be target. Lets be happy that one may get done at all. If
you dont have web, Ill call you and you and do it over phone.
Adrian Chadd wrote:
Today's networking area is very very different from where I'm sitting.
Networking can be learnt reasonably successful from a book and consultants
are called in when things aren't quite working right or its time for an upgrade.
I have not met many consultants that I would
Haven't you been paying attention? There's a whole thread dedicated to
why Australia's horridly expensive.
Jamie Bowden
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It was half way to Rivendell when the drugs began to take hold
Hunter S Tolkien Fear and Loathing in Barad Dur
Iain Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote:
Haven't you been paying attention? There's a whole thread dedicated to
why Australia's horridly expensive.
Its only ~ $300 a megabit. If you only require bugger all traffic constant
(like say, backup DNS for some small sites) then its not -that-
Justin M. Streiner wrote:
On Tue, 9 Oct 2007, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Justin, if Provider A _has_ permission from Provider B to announce a
prefix, do you believe Provider A should be allowed to announce the
prefix?
As long as all of the relevant parties know about it and are OK with it,
-Original Message-
From: Adrian Chadd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 7:07 AM
To: Jamie Bowden
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: wanted: offshore hosting
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007, Jamie Bowden wrote:
Haven't you been paying attention? There's a whole thread
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also
seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
Output over Cogent:
sarglund-cogenttraceroute www.duke-energy.com
Translating
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also
seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
2
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated
message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency,
but they also seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
Are you sure that this is not
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Basil Kruglov wrote:
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated
message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but
they also
seem to be experiencing
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 11:00:13AM -0400, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Are you sure that this is not in Sprint, or even Duke Energy ?
I can't ping to 192.234.122.137 from either home or work, and I don't
see any signs of Cogent problems
from Tyco Road / Tysons Corner.
It would seem that this
On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message
reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also
seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
We're seeing very similar
Yes, it looks like this might have been resolved. Duke Energy, Teco
Energy, Accenture, and the Washington Post are all now accessible via
Cogent.
-carl
Basil Kruglov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
10/10/2007 10:17 AM
Please respond to
nanog@merit.edu
To
nanog@merit.edu
cc
We shut off Cogent around 9:00 because of routing issues to Telia and other
parts of the Net.
From http://status.cogentco.com
**
** Cogent Network Status Report Last Updated Wed Oct 10 10:55:40 2007 **
Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports
that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be
experiencing peering problems with Sprint.
There may be some internal problems on the Sprint network; I'm unable to hit
Wow, pasted the wrong traceroute AND hit send instead of delete. It's
another great day around here. More caffeine, stat
Sprint EVDO network still seems flaky from here, but I'm waiting for one of
my more technical users to get online for troubleshooting purposes. The
duke-energy.com IP is
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote:
It's arrogant to fix brokenness? Because I'm certainly there. In my
experience, if you don't bother to address problems, they're very likely
to remain, especially when money is involved on the opposite side.
There's a big difference between fixing
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So if one of
the Tier I's decides not to accept my public /29
then the millions of
singlehomed subscribers go with it.
Yep. During normal operation, someone would be
announcing the aggregate out of which your /29 is
carved, and that provider should be
Hi Andrew,
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:36:12 -0500 (CDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Odlyzko) wrote:
As a point of information, Australia is one of the few places where
the government collects Internet traffic statistics (which are hopefully
trustworthy). Pointer is at
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote:
One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the steadily
increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of
small, portable processors for every application, meaning that there's
been an explosion of computing devices.
On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote:
One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the
steadily
increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of
small, portable processors for every application,
Greetings all,
A good friend of mine swears that Autocad is superior for network design
to Visio. I don't disagree, but only because I have never used Autocad
for network design. So far Visio has generally met my needs when I'm
working on a design, but I have found it lacking (or perhaps
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Stephen Fulton wrote:
A good friend of mine swears that Autocad is superior for network design to
Visio. I don't disagree, but only because I have never used Autocad for
network design. So far Visio has generally met my needs when I'm working on
a design, but I have
On 10/10/07, Stephen Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone using Autocad for network design? What are your thoughts?
Stephen,
I still use Corel Draw 3 for my network diagrams, so its not unheard
of to use something other than Visio.
The main benefit to Visio comes when -someone else-
It is my uinderstanding that we should use what really works for the
individual.. Just because certain individuals OVERUSE Visio for various
reasons, I feel that the usage of the best tool to fit the situation is
perfectly acceptable. In the end, the printout will still look the same
right?? If
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
William Herrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 5:11 PM
To: Stephen Fulton
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: OT: Visio or Autocad
On 10/10/07, Stephen Fulton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone using
On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote:
One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the
steadily
increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of
small, portable processors for every
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