Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-13 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Brandon Galbraith wrote: Not to drag this too far off topic, but have serious studies been done looking at moving switching fabric closer to the DSLAMs (versus doing everything PPPoE)? I know this sort of goes opposite of how ILECs are setup to dish out DSL, but as more

Re: Geographic map of IPv6 availability

2007-10-13 Thread Paul Vixie
Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ... Nice rant though :-) agreed. ... Does anyone have info on how bind (and other recursive resolvers) select whether to use v6 or v4 if an NS points at a resource with both A and records? Most OSes prefer the record, does bind behave the

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Hex Star
On 10/12/07, Lorell Hathcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.sun.com/blackbox Has anyone seen one of these things in real life? I hear that there's been one sighted in Houston. I would love to take a tour. Also, is anyone using anything like this? It seems like they would make

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Paul Ferguson wrote: No, not necessarily. Given that there are Tier 1 ISPs, Tier 2, etc., so you can certainly have some small-ish ISP colluding with criminal activity, in effect, by ignoring it or claiming ignorance. However, it's kind of hard to plead ignorance when,

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mike Lewinski: Florian Weimer wrote: I don't know what case prompted Ferg to post his message to NANOG, but I know that there are cases where failing to act is comparable to ignoring the screams for help of an alleged rape victim during the alleged crime. I'm reminded of this story

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-13 Thread J. Oquendo
Sean Donelan wrote: I don't know of any ISP that regularly (i.e. more than once) refuses to obey lawful orders of authorities in the relevant jurisdiction to take action. No disagreement there, but take a look at the wording. orders of authorities. Inference: It's ok if someone I'm leasing

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Lorell Hathcock
That's the issue with these things. It seems that everyone likes the idea, but no one wants to be the early adopters. It was pointed out to me that Google has patented the idea, but yet Sun has working on Project Blackbox for a couple of years. I wonder if there will be a legal battle

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:07 -0500, Lorell Hathcock wrote: - Disaster Recovery I can see portable generators being part of DR, but not one or more portable data centers. How long would it take you to start up a second instance of all the hosts and devices you have in a data centers? Isn't

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-13 Thread Mike Lewinski
Florian Weimer wrote: Anyway, if you've got a customer account that was created with a stolen credit card, and you get complaints about activity on that account from various parties, and you still don't act, this shows a rather significant level of carelessness. The other side of the story is

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Jerry Dixon
We've looked at these from a DHS perspective and they are a great concept. I know Sun has had the boxes here in DC on tour and worth checking out. I believe FEMA was in process of looking into leveraging them for disaster command centers along with the military. I think the better approach is

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Alan Clegg
Jerry Dixon wrote: We've looked at these from a DHS perspective and they are a great concept. I know Sun has had the boxes here in DC on tour and worth checking out. I believe FEMA was in process of looking into leveraging them for disaster command centers along with the military. As a

Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?

2007-10-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007, J. Oquendo wrote: Personally, if I were a business owner, I would attempt my best to keep my networks in order and ensure that traffic being sent *from* my network to the world wasn't tainted in any shape form or fashion. This is basically the clause for terminating

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Jerry Dixon
Poor word choice on my part regarding command center versus data service augmentation. However there are many capabilities that this setup can bring to bear no differently than a military TOC is established out in a forward operating site. I do agree that a good DR plan and hot/warm