Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?

2007-12-18 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:14:52 +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say that the huge address space makes life impossible for scanning worms. Perhaps for random address scanning, but certainly not for scanning worms generally. In addition to the paper Steve Bellovin

Re: Book on Network Architecture and Design

2007-12-03 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:16:47 -0200 MARLON BORBA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in search of a good book about Network Architecture and Design, with emphasis in Quality of Service and convergent networks, to be used as a reference. Could you please indcate your favorites? Some might say those

Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...

2007-11-05 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 11:52:11 -0500 (EST) Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just wish the IETF would acknowledge this and go ahead and define a DNS bit for artificial DNS answers for all these address correction and domain parking and domain tasting people to use for their keen Web 2.0

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-29 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comcast's network is QOS DSCP enabled, as are many other large provider networks. Enterprise customers use QOS DSCP all the time. However, the net neutrality battles last year made it politically impossible for

Re: large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.

2007-08-10 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:11:04 -0700 Douglas Otis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TCP offers a means to escape UDP related issues. On the other hand, blocking TCP may offer the necessary motivation for having these UDP issues fixed. After all, only UDP should be required. When TCP is

Re: IPv6 Advertisements

2007-05-29 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 29 May 2007 15:08:34 + (GMT) Chris L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vixie had a fun discussion about anycast and dns... something about him being sad/sorry about making everyone have to carry a /24 for f-root everywhere. I think there is a list of 'golden prefixes' or something,

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-09 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:21:38 -0500 Marshall Eubanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are correct. Today, IP multicast is limited to a few small closed networks. If we ever migrate to IPv6, this would instantly change. I am curious. Why do you think that ? I could have said the same

Re: How to pick a Site-Local Scope multi cast address

2006-12-08 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:54:03 -0600 Dave Raskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have been directed to this list by IANA when I asked the following question: An even better set of lists might be: https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mboned

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:38:10 -0800 matthew zeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind different ASNs? This is known as Multiple Origin AS of which you should be able to find plenty of discussion and articles about. It's not uncommon

Re: contacts at dlink and netgear?

2006-11-19 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:37:18 + (GMT) Chris L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the wustl.edu folks probably have a good POC for atleast netgear... since they had to deal with the netgear 'ntp issue' 2+ years ago (and ongoing still). There was a nanog preso about it I think as well as many

Re: Router / Protocol Problem

2006-09-07 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 07:27:16 -0400 Mike Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sep 7 06:50:20.697 EST: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGP: list 166 denied tcp 69.50.222.8(25) - 69.4.74.14(2421), 4 packets [...] I'm not very familiar with NBAR or how to use it for CodeRed, but this first rule: access-list 166 deny

Re: mitigating botnet CCs has become useless

2006-08-03 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:22:31 -1000 Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But shutting them down, that's like the police arresting all the informants. It doesn't stop the crime, it just eradicates all your easy leads. What're folk's thoughts on that? Well that's one perspective. I

Re: Ultradns using anycast?

2006-07-27 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:01:19 -0500 Jeffrey Sharpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if Ultradns uses anycast? Or how to get someone at UltraDNS or PIR to take ownership of a issue and resolve it? Anycast, yes. If you want to shoot me an email offline, myself or any one of the

Re: Best practices inquiry: filtering 128/1

2006-07-10 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 21:56:27 -0500 Jerry Pasker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you fear that their routers that distribute the feed could become own3d and used to cause a massive DoS by filtering out some networks? Someone in the NANOG community, I forget who now, had the sensible

Re: Control Plane Policing

2006-06-01 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:07:00 +0200 hjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have read cisco's doc about cpp and i've also read the good documentation written by John Kristoff about cpp in wich are included some implementation example. The cisco-nsp mailing list is probably a better place

Re: Are botnets relevant to NANOG?

2006-05-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 26 May 2006 10:21:10 -0700 Rick Wesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lets see, should we be concerned? here are a few interesting tables, the cnt column is new IP addresses we have seen in the last 5 days. Hi Rick, What I'd be curious to know in the numbers being thrown around if there

Re: Are botnets relevant to NANOG?

2006-05-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 26 May 2006 11:50:21 -0700 Rick Wesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The longer answer is that we haven't found a reliable way to identify dynamic blocks. Should anyone point me to an authoritative source I'd be happy to do the analysis and provide some graphs on how dynamic addresses

Re: Determine difference between 2 BGP feeds

2006-04-18 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 16:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Scott Tuc Ellentuch at T-B-O-H [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a utility that I can use that will pull the routes off each router (Foundry preferred), and then compare them as best it can to see why there is such a difference? I don't know

Re: Rate-Limiting.

2006-03-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:56:02 -0800 Robert Sherrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got a situation in which I'd like to rate limit a few servers that hang off of my 6590's... it appears that this can only be done on a layer 3 interface. These servers however aren't, they simply on a switch

Re: Rate-Limiting.

2006-03-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:25:38 -0800 Robert Sherrard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm really interested in rate limiting outbound... with many unknown dest IP's. That's what that example was intending to show. That is, rate limiting traffic coming from the servers into the VLAN interface towards

Re: do bogon filters still help?

2006-01-11 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 13:03:51 -0500 Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every time IANA allocates new prefixes, we're treated to complaints about sites that are not reachable because they're in the new space and some places haven't updated their bogon filters. My question is this:

Re: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet]

2005-12-15 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:15:49 -0500 (EST) Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ATT, Global Crossing, Level3, MCI, Savvis, Sprint, etc have sold QOS services for years. Level3 says 20% of the traffic over its What do they mean by QoS? Is it IntServ, DiffServ, PVCs, the law of averages or

Re: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet]

2005-12-15 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:29:29 + (GMT) Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my experience that is easier said than done. However, you remind me of what I think is what most who say they want QoS are really after. DoS protection. By focusing on DoS mitigation instead of

NANOG 35 PGP keyring

2005-10-21 Thread John Kristoff
Joe Abley is coordinating a set of PGP key signing parties throughout the NANOG 35 meeting. I know Joe has his hands full with program and steering committee responsibilities and could use help from others to ensure keysignings go smoothly. If you'll be attending any part of the meeting, have a

Re: Nuclear survivability (was: Cogent/Level 3 depeering)

2005-10-06 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 11:54:34 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I realize that the nuke survivable thing is probably an old wives tale, it seems ridiculous that the Internet can't adjust by [...] It's not a myth. If the Internet were running RIP instead of BGP For the Internet, I

Re: commonly blocked ISP ports

2005-09-15 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 10:29:27 +0300 Kim Onnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 80 deny udp any any eq 1026 (3481591 matches) If you don't already know, it might be worth looking at a detailed breakdown of the source ports hitting that rule. It may be blocking a good amount of DNS and NTP traffic for

Re: NANOG as the Internet government?

2005-08-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:14:52 -0400 (EDT) J. Oquendo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ten Commandments of the Interweb I'm biased, but I think these are better and less contestable: 1. Thou shalt above all, maintain the integrity of the network. 2. Thou shalt have a long term strategic

Re: VOIP provider

2005-08-03 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 3 Aug 2005 02:08:30 -0700 (PDT) Bill Woodcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What security risk does TFTP pose that isn't also shared by HTTP? I find it disappointing that the filtering police rarely stop to think about their decision about what and why protocols are a security risk. Looked

Re: Request for Peering with AS4788 at Equinix SJO/ASH/LA

2005-07-07 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:10:46 -0500 Jason Sloderbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we're not a provider of transit. I have no desire to find new peers, so I'm not considering the offer below -- just wondering if this is a red flag that's worth passing on. Probably not. When I was at DePaul and

Re: Fundamental changes to Internet architecture

2005-07-01 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:53:53 GMT Fergie (Paul Ferguson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all respect to Dave, and not to sound too skeptical, but we're pretty far along in our current architecture to fundamentally change, don't you think (emphasis on fundamentally)? From the article it seems

Re: Blocking port udp/tcp 1433/1434

2005-05-12 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 12 May 2005 04:15:07 -1000 Brian Russo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps a better question is: Is there now justification for allowing transit for ms-sql slammer ports? I think there always has been some justification. Here is a very small sample of real traffic that I can assure

Re: BCP for ISP to block worms at PEs and NAS

2005-04-17 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:28:21 +0200 Kim Onnel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the ACL below applied on many network devices to block the common worms ports, Beware, you are guaranteed to be blocking other, legitimate things too with some of these rules. More below. ip access-list extended

Re: BCP for ISP to block worms at PEs and NAS

2005-04-17 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 13:00:30 -0700 J.D. Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: deny udp any any eq 1026 Similar as before, you are going to be removing some legitimate traffic. Is this really true? All of the ports listed above are used by LAN protocols that were never

Re: Yes, I realize it's April Fools Day, but... (was: Cisco to merge with Nabisco)

2005-04-01 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 15:02:06 -0500 Joe Provo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have as much humour as the next guy, but [insert renewed call for nanog-chat or nanog-social or whatever would keep the chitchat in a different blasted bucket]. Heck, if this is the general bucket than and

Re: MD5 for TCP/BGP Sessions

2005-03-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:50:38 +0100 Doug Legge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What has been the general effect in the ISP/Enterprise community following the warnings? - Have people applied MD5? Without question more BGP sessions suddenly became 'MD5-enabled' across the net. It has been debated

Re: IRC bots...

2005-03-12 Thread John Kristoff
On Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:09:17 -0800 (PST) Bill Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As popular as instant messenger, and increasingly, voip toys, have become, actual IRC usages represents a diminishing percentage of inter-user chatter. Even something as simple as carving irc usage out of your

Re: Vonage complains about VoIP-blocking

2005-02-15 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 16:18:01 -0500 Daniel Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why block TFTP at your borders? To keep people from loading new versions of IOS on your routers? ;) Fear. Not trying to be flippant, but what's the basis for this? In addition to what others have said. The T in

Re: Smallest Transit MTU

2004-12-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:00:22 -0500 Robert E.Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A naive reader might think from Dan's posting that the Internet didn't work at all before ECN was codified (experimental with RFC 2481 in January 1999 and standards-track with RFC 3168 in September 2001). [...] ECN

Re: Smallest Transit MTU

2004-12-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:42:44 -0800 David Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I, for one, do not agree. End hosts and firewalls *should* reject all traffic they don't understand. It's precisely to prevent our unintentional participation (as end hosts) in such 'experiments' that we deploy

Re: Smallest Transit MTU

2004-12-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 01:51:01 -0500 Robert E.Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must not remember how SunOS 4 responded when handed icmp echo requests with the record-route option set (passed the packet on for the next guy to enjoy and then promptly paniced). [...] Now I know wide

Re: Anycast 101

2004-12-20 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 17:18:30 + Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are some million-bot drone armies out there. with enough attackers I've heard that claim before, but I've yet to be convinced that those making it were doing more than speculating. It is not unreasonable to believe

Re: is reverse dns required? (policy question)

2004-12-01 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 08:56:23 -0800 Greg Albrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: are we obligated, as a user of ARIN ip space, or per some BCP, to provide ad-hoc reverse dns to our customers with-out cost, or without financial obligation. I thought I saw some 'MUST' statements in an RFC about

Re: BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI

2004-11-27 Thread John Kristoff
On Sat, 27 Nov 2004 18:25:52 +0100 Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All I hear is how this company or that enterprise should qualify for PI space. What I don't hear is what's going to happen when the routing tables grow too large, or how to prevent this. I think just about

Low latency forwarding failure detection

2004-11-04 Thread John Kristoff
Not receiving any response for over a week after posting this query to cisco-nsp I thought perhaps folks here might have some input. In my scenario, Cisco is the likely gear involved, but even if people have vendor neutral feedback about this I'd be interesting in hearing it. From: John

Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS

2004-10-22 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 15:14:29 -0400 Hannigan, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..]we additionally request that they resolve the RR to 127.0.0.3 before they lock out and reload the zone. We picked 127/8 as the standard. RFC 1918 wasn't suitable for obvious reasons. [ I know you know this

Re: NANOG 32 PGP key signing

2004-10-05 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 13:58:55 +0100 Jonathan McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nanog.org/pgp.html There doesn't seem to be a lot of emphasis on identity verification according to this page. It only says You might want to bring photo id [...] http://sion.quickie.net/keysigning.txt

NANOG 32 PGP key signing

2004-10-04 Thread John Kristoff
Those of you attending NANOG 32 are encouraged to submit your public PGP key to take part in the regular key signing event. Even if you may not be able to attend the group PGP key signing event, but will be at NANOG 32, you are encouraged to submit your key anyway. You can always meet up with

Re: Log Analizing tool for Cisco and Juniper router (switch)

2004-09-21 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 22:49:36 +0800 (CST) Joe Shen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We want to analize log from Cisco and Juniper Router and switch periodically. cislog on the following page is Cisco specific, but you may find it useful: http://aharp.ittns.northwestern.edu/software/ It is

Re: Peering point speed publicly available?

2004-07-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:09:52 -0500 Erik Amundson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question regarding information on my ISP's peering relationships. Are the speeds of some or all peering relationships public knowledge, and if so, where can I find this? By speed, I mean bandwidth (DS3, OC3,

Re: ntp config tech note

2004-05-21 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 20 May 2004 21:08:43 -0700 Michael Sinatra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I run two stratum-1 servers and a few stratum-2s and I provide time via multicast (224.0.0.1), but I don't use it for my servers, except for Presumably you meant 224.0.1.1. testing and verification. I am also

Re: ntp config tech note

2004-05-20 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 20 May 2004 17:33:22 -0400 Jared Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm also wondering, how many people are using the ntp.mcast.net messages to sync their clocks? what about providing ntp We have had one user that I know of who was receiving time sync info via multicast

Re: MD5 proliferation statistics

2004-05-07 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 6 May 2004 17:52:16 -0400 Patrick W.Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, my organization was not passive until we got to see what the threat actually was, so our numbers are not useful. Would any traffic-carrying-organization care to discuss their numbers?

Re: TCP/BGP vulnerability - easier than you think

2004-04-21 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:00:55 +0100 (IST) Paul Jakma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: risk of crypto DoS than compared to the simple BGP TCP MD5 hack. The risk is due to MD5, not IPSec :). I would say the risk is due to implementation. If the vendor's gear vomits quicker due to a resource

Re: Microsoft XP SP2 (was Re: Lazy network operators - NOT)

2004-04-19 Thread John Kristoff
On 19 Apr 2004 22:16:58 + Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [(*) wierd could mean streams of tcp/syn or tcp/rst, or forged source addresses, or streams of unanswered udp, or streams of ourbound tcp/25, or udp/137..139, or who knows what it'll be by this time next month?] Precisely.

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-16 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 23:17:27 -0500 (EST) Andrew Dorsett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not referring to the time required to implement. I'm talking about the time it takes for the user. On the user end. Lets do some simple math. Lets say I turn on my laptop before I shower, I power it down

Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?

2004-03-15 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:29:29 -0500 (EST) Andrew Dorsett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a topic I get very soap-boxish about. I have too many problems with providers who don't understand the college student market. I can There are certain environments where it would be nice for people to

Re: Platinum accounts for the Internet (was Re: who offers cheap (personal) 1U colo?)

2004-03-15 Thread John Kristoff
On 15 Mar 2004 08:01:15 -0500 Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe NANOG needs to implement a system where you have to log in to a web page with your NANOG meeting passcode in order to get a usable IP address. Then, when an infected computer shows [...] Seconded. This is

Re: Clueless service restrictions (was RE: Anti-spam System Idea)

2004-02-17 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:48:18 + Alex Bligh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a) Some forms of filtering, which do occasionally prevent the customer from using their target application, are in general good, as the operational (see, on topic) impact of *not* applying tends to be worse than

Re: Outbound Route Optimization

2004-01-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:30:38 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, we can probably make something better than BGP. But will we be able to understand it? I thought this was a good measure of that question... from the current draft-irtf-routing-reqs draft: 2.1.17 Simplicity The

Re: China Telecom filtering nameservers

2003-10-23 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 11:23:08PM -0700, Joe Zhu wrote: well...if it's really problem, someone will help. But if it's smart a$$ comment like this, not sure. I'm not sure what exactly you took offense too, but if I offended someone, particularly our international neighbors I apologize. In my

Re: China Telecom filtering nameservers

2003-10-22 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Oct 22, 2003 at 02:57:55PM -0400, Daniel Medina wrote: Our main nameservers are being filtered from networks managed by CHINANET, Data Communications Division, China Telecom All traffic from our nameservers (ICMP, DNS queries, etc) is being dropped. As a result,

Use squid cache at NANOG29

2003-10-19 Thread John Kristoff
NANOG29 attendees, Help make my SSH sessions more responsive, use the squid cache. :-) http://www.nanog.org/squid.html John

Re: ICMP Blocking Woes

2003-09-30 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 05:22:25PM -0700, Crist Clark wrote: Wasn't this based upon the premise that gear should not return ICMP errors as a result of ICMP packet input as a precaution against error loops? ie said dodgy router did the _right_ thing? That would be disingenious. RFC1122

Re: Worst design decisions?

2003-09-18 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 09:53:38 -0400 Daryl G. Jurbala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * And how about this: Cisco: PICK A BUSINESS END ON YOUR SMALL OFFICE ROUTING EQUIPMENT. Most of my less clued customer like to help out and rack the equipment ahead of time. And it always gets done pretty side

Re: News of ISC Developing BIND Patch

2003-09-18 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:10:57 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: manufacturer assigned macs are guaranteed to be globally unique. Theoretically. I didn't experience it personally, but I believe there was at least one fairly well known event a few years back where a manufacturer shipped cards

Re: Port blocking last resort in fight against virus

2003-08-14 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:10:32 +0200 Robert Raszuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is fine. The amount of information to be carried is easily extensible. So if you can help us to determine the required fields we will be more then glad to add them. Deploying this as a signalling protocol that is

What you don't want to hear from a peer

2003-07-25 Thread John Kristoff
I think its safe to post this now... the AS who asked me this now seems to be gone. Keep in mind we're just a po' little school under the El in Chicago and the network asking was a seemingly large Central/South American provider who was bringing in an OC12 to AADS (compared to our OC3). Maybe

Re: Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 17:24:14 -0500 Jeff Bartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: effort to promote peering at the NAP. Have you gotten any other interest in it? About 7 replies so far, which may not warrant it I'm not sure. It would probably have been much more useful if we had it a few years ago.

Mailing list for AADS participants

2003-06-24 Thread John Kristoff
Regardless of what many of you may think of AADS generally, are there people who would be interested in joining an AADS mailing list, primarily to be used for broadcasting downtime notices or for discussing Chicago NAP specific issues. Perhaps a mailing list for other specific exchanges may be

Re: Network discovery and mapping

2003-06-22 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 09:24:58PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: gaps between entities I'm interested in mapping. I want to discover and map the connections indviduals may know about, but no one realized how all the pieces were connected. So far the recommendations have included [...] I'm

Re: Fast TCP?

2003-06-05 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 11:41:22PM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote: causes far more severe problems. Since RED causes packet drops, high speed streams that get RED'd are in an immense world of pain. Further, since a In some experience I've had RED did not cause drops. In fact, I have some data

Re: NAT for an ISP

2003-06-05 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 06:48:01PM -0400, Dan Armstrong wrote: More stuff to manage if we push it out to the CPE. Push it out even further. John

Re: Using Policy Routing to stop DoS attacks

2003-03-25 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:06:01 -0500 Christian Liendo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am sorry if this was discussed before, but I cannot seem to find this. I want to use source routing as a way to stop a DoS rather than use access-lists. If you fooled the router into thinking that the reverse path

Re: Route Supression Problem

2003-03-12 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 06:53:03AM -0600, Jack Bates wrote: traffic going to them. My router shows the last BGP peer reset about that [...] I've not seen reference to it, since the customer only transits through my network and depends on my redundancy, is it possible to hold his routes in the

Re: M$SQL cleanup incentives

2003-02-21 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:25:46 -0500 William Allen Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been pretty disappointed with some of the responses on this issue. Maybe you won't like this one either, but here goes. I'd be very interested in hearing how opeators feel about 'pushback'. It may make

Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread John Kristoff
Apologies if this ends up on the list multiple times. I seem to have trouble getting this posted in a timely fashion. In general, MAC OUI designations may indicate a particular AP. IP multicast group participation may also be used by some APs. Some APs have a few unique ports open. Lastly,

Re: Locating rogue APs

2003-02-11 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, Feb 11, 2003 at 01:02:34PM -0700, Tony Rall wrote: It sounds like John is referring to using a network IDS system, maybe one per subnet, to try to infer from the wired (maybe) network traffic that an unwanted AP is connected to your wired network. Given that you may want Actually,

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-18 Thread John Kristoff
On Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 08:58:13AM -0500, Daniel Senie wrote: While it's nice that router vendors implemented unicast RPF to make configuration in some cases easier, using simple ACLs isn't necessarily hard at the edges either. It might be nice if all router vendors were able to associate

Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-17 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, Jan 16, 2003 at 08:48:03PM -0500, Brad Laue wrote: Having researched this in-depth after reading a rather cursory article on the topic (http://grc.com/dos/drdos.htm), only two main methods come to my mind to protect against it. There are a few more methods, some have already mentioned

Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-17 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 17 Jan 2003 18:38:08 + (GMT) Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has something called Source Path Isolation Engine (SPIE). There This would be cool to see a design/whitepaper for.. Kelly? In addition to David's link: http://www.ir.bbn.com/projects/SPIE/

Re: AOL Cogent

2002-12-29 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 09:12:16PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: per-bit revenue for high tier network owners would turn into per-port revenue for exchange point operators. where's the market in that? how I think you just answered your own question. Exchange point operations. could a high tier

Re: dontaing bgp config files [Re: Risk of Internet collapse grows]

2002-12-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:03:22 -0800 (PST) Ratul Mahajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: speaking neighbor), you can help us by donating your bgp config files. abstracted or anonymized versions are ok. Of possible general interest to the list, I had begun work over a year ago in 'mapping' out peering

Re: The power of water

2002-10-23 Thread John Kristoff
At 2:03 PM -0400 10/19/02, Sean Donelan wrote: Stuff happens to everyone, its how you respond. Would your company have been able to recover as quickly? Over one weekend I was part of a team of folks involved in moving a voice/data center for a fairly sizeable regional office across the city

Congestion at SBC/AADS NAP?

2002-10-21 Thread John Kristoff
Has anyone seen what may be ATM level congestion at the Chicago NAP recently? ...or have you seen it in the recent past? We're having trouble pinpointing a problem, which may have been occurring for a long time, but just now really beginning to affect us significantly. We are seeing latency on

Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org)

2002-08-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 00:59:49 +0200 Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nice rant Randy, but if you even ever wondered why the wording Mail Relay exists you might see that if an ISP simply forwards all outgoing tcp port 25 traffic to one of their relays and protects that from weird spam

Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org)

2002-08-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 01:54:39 +0200 Jeroen Massar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SMTP is a protocol which is based on relaying messages from one mailserver to another. An endnode (especially workstations) don't need to run SMTP. I'm not sure how to truly disable an SMTP server from running on an

Re: Paul's Mailfrom (Was: IETF SMTP Working Group Proposal at smtpng.org)

2002-08-26 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, Aug 27, 2002 at 12:14:46PM +1000, Martin wrote: but surely an MTA derives it's usefulness by running on port 25. i don't remember reading about where in the DNS MX RR you could specify what port the MTA would be listening on... Surely your not a spammer looking for tips are you? :-)

Re: Best Current Practices for Routing Protocol Security

2002-08-14 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Aug 14, 2002 at 01:23:01PM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote: 4. Don't exchange routing information with external parties And don't trust them. Use limits on the amount of prefixes you're willing to accept. Verify routes received with some third party (e.g. routing database). 5. Explicit

Cogent issues at AADS PVC 5.34?

2002-07-22 Thread John Kristoff
We're currently experiencing significant latency through Cogent at AADS. I've heard they have some general latency issues, but nothing concrete yet as to what and where. Does anyone have any details of any problems while we're waiting for a response back from the NOC? Thanks, John

Re: Cogent issues at AADS PVC 5.34?

2002-07-22 Thread John Kristoff
Thanks to all those who responded. The problem appears to have mysteriously cleared up at the moment. Mysteriously, because I haven't yet heard official word from Cogent or other 3rd party on a definitive cause of the degradation. John

Re: GBLX router upgrade breaks bgp sessions

2002-07-10 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 07:04:38AM -0700, nanog wrote: Subject says it all. GBLX upgraded some edge routers to a new JunOS release (possibly 5.3 rev 24)- and now our bgp sessions continually reset with: Jul 10 06:58:24 MST: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor X.X.X.X 3/3 (update

Re: multicast (was Re: Readiness for IPV6)

2002-07-09 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 11:16:56AM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: It's a cute list. Where's ATT (with all the old Home customers)? Where AOL? Don't see UUNet either. UUNET supports multicast, although the quality of that experience for me wasn't very good. Last I heard its one price to receive

Re: operational: icmp echo out of control?

2002-05-28 Thread John Kristoff
On Tue, 28 May 2002 16:16:08 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's common enough that it's got it's own acronym. IWF - Idiot With Firewall. We call them OZZADs and here is how we respond: http://condor.depaul.edu/~jkristof/technotes/incident-response.html John

Re: operational: icmp echo out of control?

2002-05-28 Thread John Kristoff
We call them OZZADs and here is how we respond: Hmm.. 3 people have asked already What's an OZZAD? ;) So I don't have to keep answering this, forwarded to the group: Over Zealous Zone Alarm Dork John

Re: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems?

2002-05-22 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 22 May 2002 16:40:27 -0400 Kristian P. Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: network engineers, just as a bunch of network engineers are no more qualified to program. Perhaps a bachelors in network engineering is in order? We actually have that - or something close to it. We are slowly

Re: Large ISPs doing NAT?

2002-05-02 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 1 May 2002 11:00:01 -0400 (EDT) mike harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost? I'd say it's hands down an EXCELLENT reason. In some configs though, the NAT'd people can still see each other and cause problems, but it still cuts down the exposure. As well as perpetuates the neglect