.)
Please stop talking about networking on NANOG, you're confusing people. :)
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IP space.
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are out of date because
IP blocks supplied by peers, exchange points, or transit providers, are
too much of a pain to keep updated when interfaces move etc.
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generating processor on Cisco that doesn't spike every time
BGP scanner runs. Silencing end users who have figured out how to work
traceroute (or worse MTR) is worth its weight in gold.
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American Network Tech Support Operators Group? Was the memo distributed
via HTML e-mail only or something? Maybe it was redacted from the archives
so I didn't see it...
Seriously Gadi, what *possible* relevence could this have to network
operations?
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responsibility for the self policing that we're all supposed to be
doing in srh's absence.
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of meetings. Hrm guess I
had better offer dinner in St Louis is on me for whichever one of my
friends on the ARIN travel plan complains about this post first. :)
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are utterly shocked when reality
catches up with their wild, unchecked, and stupid spending. :)
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 11:28:47PM -0700, Jim Shankland wrote:
Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Advertising a window of 0 is a perfectly valid way of telling the other
side that you are temporarily out of resoruces, and would like them to
stop sending you data
, many years.
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spam, net kooks, and trolls. There is
a certain type of content that people want, and I'll give you one guess
what that is... If you don't carry that content, you'll probably be doing
more traffic in backscatter on the IP space then you will in NNTP. :)
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with MySQL faults or off-topic posts,
and it is venturing dangerously close to actually talking about routing
issues. We'd best change the subject to spam or botnets or something,
before somebody gets the wrong idea about this list. :)
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in the
country, but there is plenty of global traffic there too.
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out, particularly
to new customers. :)
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So, lets kick this Friday off right... I don't suppose anybody has noticed
that Wikipedia is being blackholed by Cogent, and that it seems to be
intentional? :)
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months to renumber out of the IP allocation.
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Oh and if you are on this list (and therefore accepting that prefix), you
may need better filters. :)
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people can actually discuss network
operations.
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think XR on GSR support is limited too, but nobody runs
that in production anyways. :)
And no, nobody seriously deploys GTSM today in any kind of scale. AFAIK no
other vendors support it yet either, so requiring it on sessions is a
non-starter.
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('click
the kitten' being a good example).
How many CAPTCHA tests can a human making minimum wage complete in an
hour? Ask the post office people who input handwritten zipcodes.
A tougher question might be, what does any of this have to do with NANOG?
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stupid unnecessary shit that breaks more than it fixes in the name of
security. :)
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contract or not) and sniff or alter them
for the purpose of doing something Bad (tm) with the data (probably
because said bad activity is already convered under some existing law,
e.g. no extorting people, no impersonating others, etc).
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.
But the short answer to your cryptic question is yes anyone can send you
anything at any time, and if you don't want them to do so, filter
appropriately on your border.
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for a lot of folks and the
closest detour is probably going to be up through Dallas, Chicago, and New
York.
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a few good stories about routers you could scramble eggs on.
:)
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probably weren't even affected.
Another day on the internet.
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On Mon, Jul 24, 2006 at 09:43:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:18:42 EDT, Richard A Steenbergen said:
Actually they just leaked some routes this morning, and blew out max
prefixes to most peers. Pretty typical as far as accidental leaks go,
those folks
. :)
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) and make it faster/better because the router has
hardware crypto available, folks will actually start buying new RPs/etc.
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information, such as matching the segment to a
proper TCB by ip/port/seq #, before doing the MD5 calculation. This makes
DoS against MD5 where you don't know the full L4 port #'s and the seq #
pretty impossible on its own, without needing to involve the TTL hack.
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On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 05:01:00PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Obviously in a perfect world, you don't want to do the expensive MD5 check
anywhere sooner than the last possible moment before you declare the data
valid and add it to the socket buffer. I assume that the reason
there that had not yet been made then by all means now is the time to
make it. Otherwise, you would really be better served by devoting your
time and energy into solving real problems. If you're running low on real
problems to solve, I would be happy to send you some of mine. :)
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and rediscovering how stuff worked all along. Why don't we spend
our time going forward solving actual issues like filtering/announcement
authentication, and stop trying to solve the non-existant problems.
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retreat while they are distracted), but otherwise they
don't see the benefit in it. Why bother configuring your router better
when you can just send your $5/hr monkey over with a redhat cd and have
them reinstall, right? :)
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better.
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at the border between Hurricane Electric and
Telia? HE is a customer of Telia. You should be contacting your
provider (HE) to resolve the issue, not Telia.
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anything. If you really can't stand seeing an RFC1918
sourced packet over the Internet it is more of a personality problem than
a networking problem, so a good shrink is probably going to be more useful
than a good firewall.
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and large networks
tend to be a bad mix. :)
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.
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As of this exact moment that I'm posting, that article is actually
reasonably accurate. Of course I'm sure in 5 minutes 100 people will be
updating it to include their favorite not-really-a-tier-1 carrier. :)
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people. :)
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received-routes
quit
Followed by 30 secs with awk(1), cut(1), diff(1), etc. For floundry,
something dirt simple like grep / | awk '{ print $2 }' should do the
trick.
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% responsible is probably a good way to hurt any kind of case
you might actually have against them too.
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in
shame.
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and one more thing, if the goal was restricting the traffic to only
people who participated at this IX (as per the description), please add
this to the list of reasons why announcing your IX subnet over the global
internet is a BAD IDEA!
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. However, that doesn't change the facts here.
This is a non-issue, and there are many many easy ways to fix it. I'm
perfectly ok with calling out dlink for their stupidity, but I think
expecting them (or phk) to pay $62k or more for this is ridiculous.
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bug
being set off by as5400 getting a little community happy?
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attendees. Stephenson said that ATT's field tests
have shown no discernable difference between ATT's 1.5 Mbps service and
Comcast's 6 Mbps because the problem is not in the last mile but in the
backbone.
No the problem is at ATT's congested peering edge. :)
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paths + wannabe network
engineers armed with a noc phone number list and traceroute, mtr, or those
wonderful visual traceroute programs that they insist on taking 6MB bmp
screenshots of and sticking into word documents so they can email that as
an attachment.
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with expertise and
years of experience. Jumping to conclusions about what is or isn't wrong
based on traceroute is probably one of the largest failings of noc people
in general.
But thanks for reminding us of the crappy crappy networking that went on 5
years ago. :)
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. Stuff
happens. You CAN hold it against them when a single metro cut takes out
half of a longhaul crosscountry ring though, or when two simultanious cuts
segment the network into east and west sides of the country. Thats just
bad planning. :)
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. Whether they have power or space for you is another matter.
If you're confused by any of this, you probably shouldn't be peering,
especially given the price of transit.
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On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 02:34:16PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
Until someone invents a universally recognized system where you can call
and say Hi I'm CCIE #12345, I'm certified to know what I'm talking about
and I have an actual network
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 08:55:04PM +0100, Per Heldal wrote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 14:10:26 -0500, Richard A Steenbergen
[snip]
The heart of this problem, like so many other problems before it, is that
most people are dumber than dirt itself.
So ... responsible prociders should only serve
not like those blocks are going to assigned to some
random network who goes to use them and finds out there is a Cymru
announcement on their space.
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idea, define filters for what is allowed in the table based
on what we see people trying to put into the table, brilliant!) and you
quickly see how IRR data becomes stale and eventually worthless.
I'll save the rest of my rant for the presentation on the subject in
Dallas. :)
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into the tunnel for days.
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it their best shot to figure out what your problem is.
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in the respecting them for taking a stand regarding the abuse of their
service category, rather than the wackjob conspiracy theorist
power-crazed zealot category we all know and love. :)
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.
Hardly an uncommon sight. :)
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future.
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and go with some
frequency. Having said all that, by all means if #nanog on efnet doesn't
fit your tastes, no one is twisting anyone's arm to be there. :)
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by the recommendation of #ciscohelp. If in doubt,
#nanog is probably not the place for you.
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of
situations, particularly gaming.
* They don't give a flying crap what a bunch of perceived whining kooks on
NANOG think about that tradeoff. God knows, I wouldn't. :)
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and moaning
about botnets you are too sekure to tell anyone else about, thus
assuring they never get fixed, at least it's nice to do it in one secret
place so I don't have to hear it. :)
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?) is applied to any peer route. I've been
told the community you're looking for is 3356:, and not as widely
speculated, 3356:174. :)
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435.464 ms
You'd be better off with an AS-PATH, but just follow the chain... Savvis
- Singtel - Pakistan Telecom - Seabone - Google. Where I'm from, we
call that a routing leak. Doesn't take too much work to guess where
either. :)
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On Tue, Dec 13, 2005 at 05:02:42PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
You'd be better off with an AS-PATH, but just follow the chain... Savvis
- Singtel - Pakistan Telecom - Seabone - Google. Where I'm from, we
call that a routing leak. Doesn't take too much work to guess where
either
/juniper-nsp/) too.
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 10:21:53AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's hard to imagine an organization who can afford to run
a network using BGP to announce a class C block and not
be able to afford $1250 per year.
Sounds like a failure of imagination to me.
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Netstradamus.
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without blowing
anything up, so those results might be a little biased. Only connecting
routers is really just attempting to mitigate the effects of stupid
people by forcing them to run configurations so simple even a monkey
could pull it off.
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certain we won't have to deal with
NAT ever again.
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bit of
common sense.
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so that you can zero out
those MEDs. With enough time and energy anything is possible, the point is
that most folks don't consider it to be worth the time, let alone the
customer anger when it degrades your traffic.
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executives in a board room with arms
interlocked at the elbow, skipping merrily in a circle with giant grins
on their faces, chanting:
o/~ We're gonna be a tier 1 o/~
o/~ We're gonna be a tier 1 o/~
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the CCIE medals of
anyone caught using the words Class C for a /24 out of 66. space.
D) Please do not feed the trolls. :)
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.
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free or
super-low-cost inbound in order to prop up its ratios? How much revenue
has been generated by depeering Cogent because of ratio imbalances? The
numbers speak for themselves, regardless of who does or doesn't pay a
higher amount to deliver the traffic.
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network outage anyways? :)
With each passing day I find myself wishing more and more that there was a
Cisco Certified Traceroute Engineer program, and a convenient system to
ignore emails with traceroutes from anyone else.
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. :)
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think they'll have
any trouble finding it under total network outage :P). Rumor has it a
maintenance in Chicago backfired (it did start at exactly 02:00 EDT on the
dot). Anyone else having flashbacks to IGP/CEF bugs? :)
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in 2000),
which were in turn based off of 1997 technology back when they were
manufactured in 1998-1999?
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with the
GSRs, or even how many of them they have left, but I di know that all of
the Juniper-based v6 is native. The MPLS-based backbone stuff is just
standard marketing fluff.
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.
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transport via northern paths.
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(this is why
there are southern paths :P).
Last report I heard on the subject a couple of hours ago was that Qwest
had not begun splicing but is standing by to do so as soon as the scene is
cleared.
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network, or dealt with customers wondering why you are routing their
traffic across the country and back again. Anyone who values the quality
of their connectivity will stick to arm-chair engineering and not actually
building a network this way.
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true here whether they had an existing
ability to flip a switch and route via (3) or not.
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, and I'm certain no one is
going to give us an answer publicly.
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benefit for you.
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of course
depends on Cogent's willingness to maintain their side of the traffic
exchange.
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to be attached to, along with helpful advice as to how it
might be made to fit there. Cogent will not waste time or money on
lawsuits for disgruntled ex-Verio T1 customers.
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to know, and they were never ambiguous about the fact that they
were fully expecting to be segmented from (3).
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On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 01:24:40AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
I don't know how you missed it, but as far as I can tell every sales rep
(3) has was mobilized to call every customer or potential customer they
Errr every sales rep Cogent had, sorry. I never heard anything about
. Besides, if anyone is depeering Cogent now because of their
disruptive pricing in the market, they're a couple years late. Speculate
all you like, but I suspect there is more to it than that.
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for their business manage to sit on necessary upgrades to peers
for months or even years longer than they would if it was a customer port.
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as they are.
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.com (209.245.19.42)
1 f29.ba01.b005944-0.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.56.189) 4 msec 4 msec 0
msec
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I guess the earlier reports of (3)'s lack of testicular fortitude may have
been exagerated after all. :)
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