ASN.1 is quite concrete, and specifys several encoding methods (I prefer BER
myself) :)
I'm not saying everyone would consider it pretty, but it's quite concrete
...
Check out http://lionet.info/asn1c/
On 5/17/07, Travis H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 10:25:14AM +0100,
but I'm still unclear on
what an MIB actually _is_,
A MIB is the database schema for an object-oriented hierarchical
database. The key words there are schema and hierarchical. Schema means
that it describes how the data is organized and hierarchical means that
it is *NOT* organized in tables
On 9-May-2007, at 05:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but I'm still unclear on
what an MIB actually _is_,
A MIB is the database schema for an object-oriented hierarchical
database.
I believe that (some?) purists would assert that there is but one
MIB, and that all other
On Wed, 9 May 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
keys into your application code, or better yet, into your application's
config file. MIBs have lots of stuff that you probably don't need unless
you are allowing users to browse through and query arbitrary data.
...for example, if you're running a
Hey folks, I am following up to an ancient email because I'm curious
if anyone has some SNMP-related resources. Basically, there's a lot
of how-to or manpage sort of information, but I'm still unclear on
what an MIB actually _is_, what problem ASN.1 actually solves, and
more to the point how the
On 2/7/07, Ray Burkholder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Going back to this thread, http://www.kx.com/ deals in financial transaction
databases where they store millions of ticks. They appear to have a
transactional based language with a solution that appears to be robust and
fail resistant.
I'm
How about something like:
http://www.hdfgroup.org/whatishdf5.html
I don't think they support transactional updates, which makes
it hard to use for live data. (A simple crash, and you need
to recover from
backup.)
Going back to this thread, http://www.kx.com/ deals in financial
how do you define your schema?
how long does it take to insert/index/whatnot the data?
This is a much bigger deal than most people realize.
Poor schema design will cause your system to choke
bade when you try to scale it. In fact, relational
databases are not the ideal way to store this kind
But to start with, just solving the data storage problem is a
good place to start. If someone can create a specialized
network monitoring database that scales, then the rest of the
toolkit will be much easier to deal with. Note that people
have done a lot of research on this sort of
This is where dbms' designed for data warehouses might come into play,
something like SybaseIQ. It is adapted for long term storage and retrieval.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
how do you define your schema?
how long does it take to insert/index/whatnot the data?
This is a much bigger
But to start with, just solving the data storage problem is a good
place to start.
How about something like:
http://www.hdfgroup.org/whatishdf5.html
That certainly has a lot of support in the scientific community
in similar applications such as astronomy and high-energy
physics.
This is where dbms' designed for data warehouses might come
into play, something like SybaseIQ. It is adapted for long
term storage and retrieval.
If you understand the finer details of schema design for
data warehousing such as star schemas and snowflake schemas
then you will probably
* Ray Burkholder:
How about something like:
http://www.hdfgroup.org/whatishdf5.html
I don't think they support transactional updates, which makes it hard
to use for live data. (A simple crash, and you need to recover from
backup.)
--
Florian Weimer[EMAIL PROTECTED]
BFK
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:05:24PM +, Paul Vixie wrote:
glibly said, sir. but i disasterously underestimated the amount of time
and money it would take to build BIND9.
While I can't question your credentials at creating serious network
infrastructure, I wonder about the comparison between
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 02:12:01PM -0400, Ray Burkholder wrote:
I've done some work with Cricket and have figured out a way to get at it's
schema. I've been looking at mating Cricket' s 'getter and schema with
Drraw and genDevConfig tools and putting a Mason based HTML wrapper around
the
I would say somewhere around 4000 network interfaces (6-8 stats per int)
and around 1000 servers (8-10 stats per server) we started seeing
problems, both with navigation in the UI and with stats not reliably
updating. I did not try that poller, perhaps its worth trying it again
using it. I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason LeBlanc) writes:
After looking for 'the ideal' tool for many years, it still amazes me
that no one has built it. Bulk gets, scalable schema and good portal/UI.
RTG is better than MRTG, but the config/db/portal are still lacking.
if funding were available, i know
Paul Vixie wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason LeBlanc) writes:
After looking for 'the ideal' tool for many years, it still amazes me
that no one has built it. Bulk gets, scalable schema and good portal/UI.
RTG is better than MRTG, but the config/db/portal are still lacking.
[..]
been there,
, Cisco's
Quality of Service, etc.
Would anyone be interested in such a contraption?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Vixie
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 13:43
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j
I see a reference in the response to RTG. RTG's claim to fame looks like
speed.
In comparison to RRDTOOL-based applications, RTG stores raw values rather
than cooked averages, allowing for a great deal more flexibility in analysis.
And you aren't limited to a temporally fixed window of
: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 1:12 PM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)
I see a reference in the response to RTG. RTG's claim to fame looks like
speed.
I've done some work with Cricket and have figured out a way to get at it's
schema. I've been looking
Maybe this is overly naïve, but what about the ability to
auto-magically import and search various vendor SNMP/WMI
MIBs? I can think of 3 open source NMS that do a good job if
you set up all 3 to monitor the network, but they all overlap
and none of them really do a good job.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeroen Massar) writes:
..., $5M over three years? spread out over 50 network owners that's
$3K a month. i don't see that happening in a consolidation cycle like
this one, but hope springs eternal. give randy and hank the money,
they'll take care of this for us once
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:34:19AM -0500, Jason LeBlanc wrote:
I would say somewhere around 4000 network interfaces (6-8 stats per int)
and around 1000 servers (8-10 stats per server) we started seeing
problems, both with navigation in the UI and with stats not reliably
updating. I did
On 1/24/2007 3:05 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
glibly said, sir. but i disasterously underestimated the amount of time
and money it would take to build BIND9. since i'm talking about a scalable
pluggable portable F/L/OSS framework that would serve disparite interests
and talk to devices that
On 1/24/2007 2:46 PM, Ray Burkholder wrote:
WMI requires Windows Authentication, and if one is running Linux tools,
there are issues. I havn't come a cross an easy way to get to WMI from
Linux yet. Anyone have any suggestions?
I've been working on this for a while actually.
WMI is WBEM,
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Mark Boolootian wrote:
I see a reference in the response to RTG. RTG's claim to fame looks like
speed.
In comparison to RRDTOOL-based applications, RTG stores raw values rather
than cooked averages, allowing for a great deal more flexibility in analysis.
And you aren't
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, Jason LeBlanc wrote:
Anyone thats seen MRTG (simple, static) on a large network realizes that
decoupling the graphing from the polling is necessary. The disk i/o is
brutal. Cacti has a slick interface, but also doesn't scale all that well
for large networks. I prefer
Anyone thats seen MRTG (simple, static) on a large network realizes that
decoupling the graphing from the polling is necessary. The disk i/o is
brutal. Cacti has a slick interface, but also doesn't scale all that
well for large networks. I prefer RTG, though I haven't seen a nice
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 02:33:10PM -0700, Berkman, Scott wrote:
NMS Software should not be placed in the public domain/internet. By the
time anyone who would like to attack Cacti itself can access the server
and malform an HTTP request to run this attack, then can also go see
your entire
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On Jan 21, 2007, at 11:35 PM, Travis H. wrote:
That is, most of the dynamically-generated content doesn't need to be
generated on demand. If you're pulling data from a database, pull it
all and generate static HTML files. Then you don't even
Many of us run cacti. FYI.
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:26:37 -0500
From: Warner Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: bugtraq@securityfocus.com
Subject: FW: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released
That's right, it's not vendor specific guys. Yay!
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:40:06AM -0600, Gadi Evron wrote:
Many of us run cacti. FYI.
Thanks for posting this, even though it's slightly OT.
Not to start an opinion war, but those who do run Cacti should
really consider removing this software from their boxes
permanently.
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
For those who don't have the time/care enough to go look
at the Secunia report, I'll summarise it:
1) cmd.php and copy_cacti_user.php both blindly pass
arguments passed in the URL to system(). This, IMHO, is
reason enough to not run this
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Jon Lewis
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:40 PM
To: Jeremy Chadwick
Cc: Gadi Evron; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: FW: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
For those who don't have the time
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007, Berkman, Scott wrote:
NMS Software should not be placed in the public domain/internet. By the
time anyone who would like to attack Cacti itself can access the server
and malform an HTTP request to run this attack, then can also go see
your entire topology and access your
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 14:33 -0700, Berkman, Scott wrote:
There is this Network Management theory called Out of Band Management.
Which is rarely properly applied. I lost count of the data centers that
block mgmt traffic from external customers, but leave internal systems
(which are often sublet
* Berkman, Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-01-18 22:34]:
Cacti is a free open source tool, and in my opinion these should never
be expected to be 100% free of bugs, errors, and exploits.
very much opposed to commercial software, where you can be 100% sure
that they are full of bugs, errors, and
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