Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-10-02 Thread David Barak
--- Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's worth noting that C's don't need actual IP address space assigned to the router-id for OSPF. It's just an arbitrary value; it's probably better karma to set it to whatever you want (maybe something that doesn't look like an IP address).

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-10-02 Thread Austin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eek! There are a couple of downsides to having the router-ID divorced from a physical address: 1) you get an additional number which you have to have to track to ensure uniqueness. 2) you lose the benefit of being able to double check reachability (ping/ssh to

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-30 Thread Sean Figgins
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: ospf doesn't, for router-id on cisco's atleast, as Warren pointed out :( however! switching from ospf to 'another igp' (ISIS would work well) would avoid that, slide off ospf and onto ISIS, kill ospf when all next-hops switch, which should be

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-30 Thread Austin
It's worth noting that C's don't need actual IP address space assigned to the router-id for OSPF. It's just an arbitrary value; it's probably better karma to set it to whatever you want (maybe something that doesn't look like an IP address). RFC 2328: Router ID A 32-bit

[eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Randy Bush
so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few gasp zebras in an ospf and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course. unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do so with minimal disruption. i am thinking of something like the

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread David Sinn
Are you using any logging-source or source interface for your authentication on the boxes? I've found that most versions of IOS require a reboot to accept a change of these. Similarly, OSPF under IOS will need a bounce/reboot to change it's router-ID if you are using the loopback for that.

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Randy Bush
Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice, push it back up to startup-config and schedule a reboot. iBGP is much easier to

RE: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Neil J. McRae
this is my fear. which is why i asked. pushing out new configs (the canonic config is on disk, not the router [0]) and setting a reload of a bunch of routers at time t0 does not give me warm fuzzies about what the world will be like at time tn (n 0). but i may have to take that

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Randy Bush wrote: so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few gasp zebras in an ospf and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course. unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Jake Khuon
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Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Ian Dickinson
Randy Bush wrote: Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice, push it back up to startup-config and schedule a reboot. iBGP is

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 12:14:46AM +0100, Ian Dickinson wrote: Randy Bush wrote: Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice,

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: chopped ian's good infos Of course, you can always pre-deploy ibgp sessions and TE configs to the new address (which will remain down until the new address exists), go for your OOB access to the box, change the loopback IP address (and