Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-29 Thread Michael . Dillon
Unfortunately, telling end users to disable a default setting is rather difficult these days. Not if it's done the right way using the right language. For instance... Did you realize that your computer is probably wasting precious bandwidth and slowing down your Internet

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-29 Thread Owen DeLong
I think the solution is for those DNS operators affected who have not signed an EULA for the system that is hammering their DNS to sue Micr0$0ft for the costs incurred in dealing with the issue. Making Micr0$0ft play legal whack-a-mole may be the only strategy with a chance of success here. (I

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-29 Thread Owen DeLong
The difference is that Netgear admitted responsibility and worked with UW to cope with the issue. Further, Netgear has funded UW in it's cleanup efforts and generally stepped up to the plate. As much as I don't care for Netgear's products, they did show decent corporate responsibility when UW

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-29 Thread Michael . Dillon
It reminds me of the Netgear and U of Wisconsin time server SNAFU. http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~plonka/netgear-sntp/ The difference is that Netgear admitted responsibility and worked with UW to cope with the issue. Further, Netgear has funded UW in it's cleanup efforts and generally stepped up to

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-29 Thread Owen DeLong
Micahel, I think class action is a less effective approach here. Micr0$0ft has vast resources ready to take on any large single lawsuit and make it a very expensive and resource intensive process for their opposition. On the other hand, with a low (around $25 last I looked) filing fee and

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Original Message - From: Owen DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 1:07 PM Subject: Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...) Think about Micr0$0ft trying to fight off thousands

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-28 Thread Paul Vixie
Back in beta days, the official explanation given was that the DNS updating was a value add and that it would never be disabled as a default as a courtesy to corporate customers. Furthermore, MSFT folks have repeatedly said that the workaround is to simply configure your nameserver to

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-28 Thread Brian Bruns
: Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...) Back in beta days, the official explanation given was that the DNS updating was a value add

RE: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-28 Thread Vivien M.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Bruns Sent: September 28, 2003 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Paul Vixie Subject: Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...) How about just

Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-27 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: noc@ and abuse@ are ignoring me as usual, so i'm spamming nanog@ in hopes of locating attbi clue. i need somebody who can educate one of your customers who is dns-updating me. ATT Broadband was sold to Comcast a while ago. There is no more attbi clue.

Re: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...)

2003-09-27 Thread Alan Spicer
- From: Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 7:30 PM Subject: Annoying dynamic DNS updates (was Re: someone from attbi please contact me ...) On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, Paul Vixie wrote: noc@ and abuse@ are ignoring me as usual, so i'm