Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-24 Thread vijay gill
Joseph Jackson wrote: I'm pretty new to the networking world. While I don't run a huge and complex network in a service provider market. We're just an enterprise network. I have read a lot of useful info about networking from the nanog list. But I do have to say that when I speak to the

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread bmanning
i'm sure someone knows -exactly- what those two hops are, but they may not be willing to say. http://lists.elistx.com/archives/interesting-people/200605/msg00250.html might be an explaination for the paranoid. --bill On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 07:24:52AM +, Fergie wrote: -BEGIN

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Randy Bush
ATT's 'internet free' mpls core? randy ___ sent from a handheld, so even more terse than usual :-)

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Sean Donelan
Bah, Humbug. Optical taps don't decrement TTLs or generate ICMP packets. San Francisco Bay Area cable modem networks have transitioned from @Home to ATT Broadband to Comcast, so there is probably all sorts of expedient things done to keep it working through those transitions and IP

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread bmanning
Besides, why do you believe the text in an in-addr.arpa record? Or why do you think the absence of an in-addr.arpa record is meaningful? 'cause i am a trusting sort... i tend to believe the DNS. even more so when i can validate the signed replys... the absence of

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Michael . Dillon
Besides, why do you believe the text in an in-addr.arpa record? Or why do you think the absence of an in-addr.arpa record is meaningful? Back in the old days, say 10 years ago, you could run a network by the seat of your pants using rules of thumb about interpretation of in-addr.arpa

nanog revelancy to newcomers [was Re: Curious question on hop identity...]

2006-12-14 Thread Scott Weeks
... ;-) scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Curious question on hop identity... Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:19:14 + Besides, why do you believe the text in an in-addr.arpa record? Or why do you think the absence of an in-addr.arpa

RE: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Joseph Jackson
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Curious question on hop identity... Besides, why do you believe the text in an in-addr.arpa record? Or why do you think the absence of an in-addr.arpa record is meaningful? Back

RE: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Scott Weeks
PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Curious question on hop identity... Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:10:51 -0800 I'm pretty new to the networking world. While I don't run a huge and complex network in a service provider market. We're just an enterprise network. I have

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Jackson) [Fri 15 Dec 2006, 00:11 CET]: I'm pretty new to the networking world. While I don't run a huge and complex network in a service provider market. We're just an enterprise network. I have read a lot of useful info about networking from the nanog list. But

Re: nanog revelancy to newcomers [was Re: Curious question on hop identity...]

2006-12-14 Thread Matthew Sullivan
Scott Weeks wrote: rant I just have to add to this. I have worked with quite a few CC{IE, NP, SP, ...} types lately that've been given lead positions and high responsibilities. (Hell, some have .sigs that look like the dictionary. They're very good at passing cert tests.) Many don't want

RE: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-14 Thread Joseph Jackson
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Niels Bakker Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 3:31 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Curious question on hop identity... * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph Jackson) [Fri 15 Dec 2006, 00:11 CET]: I'm pretty

Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-13 Thread Fergie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be far afield insofar as topic fodder, but I am curious if anyone knows exactly what these two hops [9] [10] below, actually are? [snip] [...] 5 165 ms 161 ms 183 ms 10g-9-1-ur04.sanjose.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87. 192.49] 6

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-13 Thread alex
On Thu, 14 Dec 2006, Fergie wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be far afield insofar as topic fodder, but I am curious if anyone knows exactly what these two hops [9] [10] below, actually are? Wouldn't you like to know? -- Alex Pilosov| DSL, Colocation,

Re: Curious question on hop identity...

2006-12-13 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2006-12-14-02:24:52, Fergie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may be far afield insofar as topic fodder Not in the slightest. To the contrary, it's one of the more on-topic postings I've seen as of late, and I mean that with all sincerity. I am curious if anyone knows exactly what these two