Re: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-17 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 17.09 04:27, Paul Vixie wrote: speaking for f-root, we won't be cooperating with anything like that. speaking for k-root we will not either. ... sounds like mob rule to me -- count me out. so, block me first, i guess? block us second. Daniel

RE: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-17 Thread Mike Damm
I never said anything in my original posting regarding assistance from the root operators; god knows you guys have a hard enough job already. And frankly blocking non-cooperative servers would hurt the net just as much as what VeriSign's doing. My suggestion was to simply create a viable

Re: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread E.B. Dreger
MD Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 11:07:41 -0700 MD From: Mike Damm MD Who's up for creating a network of new gTLD servers? I'm sure I dunno. We'd be trusting those operating the gTLD network. ;-) MD it wouldn't be too hard to reconstruct 90% of the com/net MD zones from publicly available data MD

Re: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread bert hubert
On Tue, Sep 16, 2003 at 11:07:41AM -0700, Mike Damm wrote: Who's up for creating a network of new gTLD servers? I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to reconstruct 90% of the com/net zones from publicly available data (http://www.deleteddomains.com/newlist.shtml?cid=11673-11084 would be a

Re: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread William Allen Simpson
This would require cooperation from the root-servers operators. And a serious effort from ISP/NSP community to block network access to root-servers that don't cooperate. I agree that it's a good idea at this point. I see nothing else as a serious long-term technical solution. Mike Damm

RE: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread Mike Damm
I have received a few replies off list suggesting the same. I already have access to the zones (well, not currently, moved to a new IP block and need to update my source address with them), and if I remember correctly, the agreement I had to sign restricts you from redistributing the data in any

RE: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread Eric Germann
And I faxed my stuff a month ago and they haven't replied yea or nea ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Damm Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 3:52 PM To: 'bert hubert'; Mike Damm Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Not the best

Re: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread Paul Vixie
Who's up for creating a network of new gTLD servers? This would require cooperation from the root-servers operators. speaking for f-root, we won't be cooperating with anything like that. we do not edit the zone files we serve. they come from iana, and if you want something different

Re: Not the best solution, but it takes VeriSign out of the loop

2003-09-16 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 04:27:05 -, Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: speaking for f-root, we won't be cooperating with anything like that. we do not edit the zone files we serve. they come from iana, and if you want something different served, you'll have to talk to iana. i cannot speak