On Nov 27, 2007 8:08 PM, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Several new projects have started around the world to achieve those goals.
ITU anti-botnet initiative
http://www.itu.int/ITU-D/cyb/cybersecurity/projects/botnet.html
I wrote this one. And there are a few things in there that
On a more practical/technical level, I'm interested in how
French ISPs that worked on the plan to implement it on their networks?
http://www.culture.gouv.fr/culture/actualites/conferen/albanel/rapportol
ivennes231107.pdf
I couldn't get a good copy from that URL but I did manage to get one
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
In my view, it's the responsibility of everyone on the net to do
whatever they can to squelch the first. But they have no obligations
at all when it comes to the second -- that way lies the slippery
slope of content policing and censorship.
The
On Tuesday 27 November 2007, Alex Pilosov wrote:
I'd like to draw attention to nanog AUP, particularly #6: Postings of
political, philosophical, and legal nature are prohibited.
While the regulation of internet by filtering bad traffic is clearly
political and/or legal, I do think the
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution, and
proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear and pure.
No offense, but I think this is an overly political topic, and we
just saw that politics are not supposed to be discussed. There
is a huge political debate on what ISP's should and should not be
doing to traffic that flows through their systems. There are
other groups, like NNsquad, where these
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:38:40 EST, Sean Donelan said:
Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution,
and proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear and pure.
What's the networking
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:03:55 EST, Jared Mauch said:
Within the next 2 major software releases (Microsoft OS) they're
going to by default require signed binaries. This will be the only viable
solution to the malware threat. Other operating systems may follow.
(This was a WAG, based on
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Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution,
and proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Fred Reimer wrote:
No offense, but I think this is an overly political topic, and we
just saw that politics are not supposed to be discussed. There
is a huge political debate on what ISP's should and should not be
doing to traffic that flows through
Rather than go after distilled water via reverse osmosis, I think a carbon
filter would be a good place to start.
Frank
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On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Other operating systems may follow. (This was a WAG, based on gut
feeling).
Nokia by default require app installed on the phones to be signed,
though one can disable this functionality (and in fact must, in order
to run many of the
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution, and
proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear and pure.
Quoting Wu
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 09:38:40AM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote:
Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution, and
proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear and pure.
Yes -- well,
Roland Dobbins wrote:
On Nov 27, 2007, at 7:03 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Other operating systems may follow. (This was a WAG, based on gut
feeling).
Nokia by default require app installed on the phones to be signed,
though one can disable this functionality (and in fact must, in order
But, if it's not viewed as political then...
Your analogy is flawed, because the Internet is not a pipe system
and ISP's are not your local water utility.
And the internet is not a big truck! It'sIt's a series of tubes!
Sorry, I couldn't resist... with all these things clogging all
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Jerry Pasker wrote:
But, if it's not viewed as political then...
Your analogy is flawed, because the Internet is not a pipe system
and ISP's are not your local water utility.
And the internet is not a big truck! It'sIt's a series of tubes!
Sorry, I
On November 27, 2007 at 09:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sean Donelan) wrote:
Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution,
and proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear and
personal opinion
the position that politics, culture, and society have no place in
internet operations is beyond even an ostrich. they bloody *drive* the
car. while we're at it, why not eliminate finances too? sheesh!
randy
* Jared Mauch:
Within the next 2 major software releases (Microsoft OS) they're
going to by default require signed binaries. This will be the only viable
solution to the malware threat. Other operating systems may follow.
(This was a WAG, based on gut feeling).
The code signing CAs
On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
* Jared Mauch:
Within the next 2 major software releases (Microsoft OS) they're
going to by default require signed binaries. This will be the
only viable
solution to the malware threat. Other operating systems may follow.
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:32 PM
To: Florian Weimer
Cc: Jared Mauch; Sean Donelan; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet
On Nov 27, 2007, at 4:04 PM, Florian Weimer
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:04:23 +0100, Florian Weimer said:
There's also the issue that you can't reliably tell data (which,
presumably, does not need to be signed) from code.
And active content is what happens when you *intentionally* blur the data/
code distinction.
Unfortunately, it's (a)
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:38:40 EST, Sean Donelan said:
Some people have compared unwanted Internet traffic to water pollution,
and proposed that ISPs should be required to be like water utilities and
be responsible for keeping the Internet water crystal clear and pure.
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