Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-17 Thread chuck goolsbee
Or say, lots of processing somewhere short term - like video editing/rendering/whatever at the Olympic games. Rendering maybe, but editing needs human space... http://www.confidencebay.com --chuck

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-17 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:20 -0700, chuck goolsbee wrote: Or say, lots of processing somewhere short term - like video editing/rendering/whatever at the Olympic games. Rendering maybe, but editing needs human space... Not even rendering... streaming it back to your established production

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-15 Thread Lorell Hathcock
On 15/10/2007, at 12:05 AM, Simon Lyall wrote: As for where the Blackboxes will be used, It'll be where companies want servers in place in weeks or months and existing datacenters are full or in the wrong place. Think of a building full of people processing insurance claims in India or

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-15 Thread Lorell Hathcock
so through this thread. Lorell _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorell Hathcock Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:07 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center That's the issue with these things. It seems

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-14 Thread Andy Davidson
On 14 Oct 2007, at 01:26, Jim Popovitch wrote: - New Media / Web 2.0 HUH? I understand what Lorell means - the web 2.0 scaling model is to throw resources, rather than intelligence at your bottlenecks. I met some 'web 2' people at a conference quite recently, and they were

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-14 Thread Simon Lyall
On Sun, 14 Oct 2007, Andy Davidson wrote: I understand what Lorell means - the web 2.0 scaling model is to throw resources, rather than intelligence at your bottlenecks. I think this is a little hard. Just about all the Web 2.0 presentations I see have a big bit that says that how they had to

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-14 Thread Nathan Ward
On 15/10/2007, at 12:05 AM, Simon Lyall wrote: As for where the Blackboxes will be used, It'll be where companies want servers in place in weeks or months and existing datacenters are full or in the wrong place. Think of a building full of people processing insurance claims in India or a

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Hex Star
On 10/12/07, Lorell Hathcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.sun.com/blackbox Has anyone seen one of these things in real life? I hear that there's been one sighted in Houston. I would love to take a tour. Also, is anyone using anything like this? It seems like they would make

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Lorell Hathcock
Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center On 10/12/07, Lorell Hathcock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.sun.com/blackbox Has anyone seen one of these things in real life? I hear that there's been one sighted in Houston. I would love to take a tour. Also, is anyone using anything like

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:07 -0500, Lorell Hathcock wrote: - Disaster Recovery I can see portable generators being part of DR, but not one or more portable data centers. How long would it take you to start up a second instance of all the hosts and devices you have in a data centers? Isn't

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Jerry Dixon
Hathcock Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:07 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center That's the issue with these things. It seems that everyone likes the idea, but no one wants to be the early adopters. It was pointed out to me that Google has patented

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Alan Clegg
Jerry Dixon wrote: We've looked at these from a DHS perspective and they are a great concept. I know Sun has had the boxes here in DC on tour and worth checking out. I believe FEMA was in process of looking into leveraging them for disaster command centers along with the military. As a

Re: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-13 Thread Jerry Dixon
Poor word choice on my part regarding command center versus data service augmentation. However there are many capabilities that this setup can bring to bear no differently than a military TOC is established out in a forward operating site. I do agree that a good DR plan and hot/warm

RE: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center

2007-10-12 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
Subject: Sun Project Blackbox / Portable Data Center www.sun.com/blackbox Has anyone seen one of these things in real life? SLAC has a blackbox (which is actually white) installed, and running it packed with servers for batch computing for the high energy physics program.