RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Owen DeLong
This whole thing makes me think that we should be encouraging VOIP traffic to run over IPSEC so we can claim we don't know what it is. Owen pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Of Owen DeLong Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:51 AM To: 'nanog list' Subject: RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS? This whole thing makes me think that we should be encouraging VOIP traffic to run over IPSEC so we can claim we don't know what it is. Owen

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Scott McGrath
This is part of a law enforcement wishlist which has been around for a long time (See Magic Lantern, Clipper Chip et. al. for examples). What is desired here is a system by which all communications originating/or terminating at $DESIGNATED_TARGET can be intercepted with no intervention by

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Scott McGrath wrote: What is desired here is a system by which all communications originating/or terminating at $DESIGNATED_TARGET can be intercepted with no intervention by and/or knowledge of the carrier hence ensuring the security of the investigation. I don't think

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread Scott McGrath
I have read the filing it's another step down the road. True all comms are subject to intercept _already_ what is desired is a way to _easily_ perform the intercept and the easily part is the kicker. Some things should be hard especially where civil rights are involved. See all the light and

Re: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-15 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: I have read the filing it's another step down the road. True all comms are subject to intercept _already_ what is desired is a way to _easily_ perform the intercept and the easily part is the kicker. Some things should be

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-13 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
David, I believe that CALEA versions of IOS are already available on cisco.com. It has a backdoor for any traffic originating from dhs.gov address space. ;) C. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Lesher Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2004

Re: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-13 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
X-URL: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A54512-2004Mar12?language=printer Easier Internet Wiretaps Sought Justice Dept., FBI Want Consumers To Pay the Cost Not sure whos viewpoint this is, it reads like its the FBI's: The problem the FBI faces is that it cannot identify and break

Re: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-13 Thread James Edwards
They have access into the TDM network at present. Now they want VoIP. -- James H. Edwards Routing and Security At the Santa Fe Office: Internet at Cyber Mesa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Will your cisco have the FBI's IOS?

2004-03-13 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: I believe that CALEA versions of IOS are already available on cisco.com. It has a backdoor for any traffic originating from dhs.gov address space. ;) If law enforcement was satisified with the solutions already available, I don't think they