Re: routing table size

2002-07-30 Thread Tim Thorne
Mark Radabaugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously you can't keep leaving big 'reserved' holes in your allocations to downstreams for potential growth. I've seen RIPE allocate /20s under the proviso that the customer use the first /23 now and apply to use the rest of the space as they grow. --

Re: routing table size

2002-07-29 Thread Brian
the large quantity of /24 announcements is, I suspect, from comapnies just large enough to want the benefits of multihoming. You know, 2 t1s on a small router, and stuff like that.. Bri On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: I've a feeling that the fact that everyone shares

Re: routing table size

2002-07-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 03:35:19PM -0700, Brian wrote: the large quantity of /24 announcements is, I suspect, from comapnies just large enough to want the benefits of multihoming. You know, 2 t1s on a small router, and stuff like that.. Everyone and their mother says they suspect that,

Re: routing table size

2002-07-29 Thread Paul Schultz
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: If someone has done an actual study of where these /24s (and probably /23s too) come from, please point it out. Until then, my money is on clueless redist connected/statics, large cable/dsl providers who announce a /24 per

RE: routing table size

2002-07-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Until then, my money is on clueless redist connected/statics, large cable/dsl providers who announce a /24 per pop/city/whatever to their single transit provider, and general ignorance. Why attribute to functionality what can easily be explained by incomptence. :) -- Richard A

RE: routing table size

2002-07-29 Thread Phil Rosenthal
Now the question is, of that 70% figure, how much of that is aggregateable? --Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Paul Schultz Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: routing table size On Mon, 29

Re: routing table size

2002-07-27 Thread Bradley Dunn
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, Ralph Doncaster wrote: If the size of the global routing table is really an important issue, why not start filtering /24 announcements? By all means, go ahead. You don't need anyone's permission. Report back with your results. I have more of a legal right to use my

Re: routing table size

2002-07-27 Thread Ralph Doncaster
Off your network, your legal rights are pretty limited. I (and I'm sure lots of other admins) block at the /24 boundry. Anything you announce from /25 to /32 will be ignored on my network. Some providers choose to block according to RIR allocation sizes. To me, that's not worth the

Re: routing table size

2002-07-27 Thread David Schwartz
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:04:02 +0100 (BST), Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: I've a feeling that the fact that everyone shares at least the view that a /24 is minimum helps to contain the routing table. (even if there are still thousands of /24 announcements) If a significant number of providers

Re: routing table size

2002-07-27 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sat, 27 Jul 2002, David Schwartz wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 23:04:02 +0100 (BST), Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: I've a feeling that the fact that everyone shares at least the view that a /24 is minimum helps to contain the routing table. (even if there are still thousands of /24