RE: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)

2002-05-22 Thread Daniel Golding
. - Daniel Golding -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ralph Doncaster Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 10:29 AM To: Majdi S. Abbas Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects) traffic. If you're going to have

Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)

2002-05-19 Thread Ralph Doncaster
traffic. If you're going to have to negotiate bilateral agreements to cover the bulk of your peering traffic, why not consistantly negotiate bilateral agreements? Randy (Group Telecom) snubbed me when I asked to peer at TorIX. Group Telecom is on the AADS MLPA. ATT Canada has a tough

Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)

2002-05-18 Thread Ralph Doncaster
On 17 May 2002, Paul Vixie wrote: I welcome any further questions about PAIX's health or future. When we Why no optional MLPA like AADS? Even though AADS is overpriced, I considered it just because of the long list of companies that are signed up on the MLPA. -Ralph

Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)

2002-05-18 Thread Paul Vixie
I welcome any further questions about PAIX's health or future. [...] Why no optional MLPA like AADS? [...] we had one at first. after a few years of approximately no signatories, we stopped trying. my own experience is that bilaterals are more useful for engineering purposes and that

Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)

2002-05-18 Thread Ralph Doncaster
Why no optional MLPA like AADS? [...] we had one at first. after a few years of approximately no signatories, we stopped trying. my own experience is that bilaterals are more useful for engineering purposes and that multilaterals are kind of swampy. One BGP session instead of dozens

Re: PAIX (was Re: Interconnects)

2002-05-18 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Sat, May 18, 2002 at 04:51:27PM -0400, Ralph Doncaster wrote: One BGP session instead of dozens is more convenient. Maybe not more useful for engineering, but certainly less work than negotiating and configuring a bunch of sessions for bilateral peering. For smaller ISPs like mine,