Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-17 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Brandon Galbraith wrote: True :) I'd also think (read: hope) if an organization was located in an area where multi-homing was not possible, then that organization and its customers would not be doing things that are mission critical, i.e. business stops if there is no

RE: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
Almost ALL providers should be multihomed. --Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of virendra rode // Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:26 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) -BEGIN PGP

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Wil Schultz
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of virendra rode // Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:26 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Bulk wrote: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn

RE: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Mike Hammett
: Friday, March 16, 2007 6:56 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Almost ALL? Any company, or any person for that matter, that relies on their Internet connectivity for their lively hood should be multihomed. -wil On Mar 16, 2007, at 4:42 PM

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Joe Abley
On 16-Mar-2007, at 19:56, Wil Schultz wrote: Almost ALL? Surely all those except those who are competing with you for the same customers should multi-home. :-) Joe

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Owen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 16, 2007, at 6:59 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Some locations are just too cost prohibitive to multihome, but that really is a select few. It isn't just cost but can be path diversity (or lack thereof). We used to be headquartered 210

RE: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Frank Bulk
, as a business requirement. Frank -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 8:54 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) Almost ALL? Any company, or any person for that matter, that relies on their Internet connectivity for their lively

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
Joe Abley wrote: On 16-Mar-2007, at 19:56, Wil Schultz wrote: Almost ALL? Surely all those except those who are competing with you for the same customers should multi-home. :-) To the NANOG T-shirt Committee: Please consider this as the slogan for the next design.

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-16 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On 3/16/07, Justin M. Streiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Joe Abley wrote: Almost ALL? Surely all those except those who are competing with you for the same customers should multi-home. :-) True :) I'd also think (read: hope) if an organization was located in an area

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-15 Thread virendra rode //
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Bulk wrote: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers? Frank - Just curious, should small responsive providers

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-15 Thread virendra rode //
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 virendra rode // wrote: Frank Bulk wrote: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers? Frank Just curious, should small

RE: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-15 Thread Berkman, Scott
my 2 cents) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:30 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property) http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-15 Thread Jerry Pasker
Not knowing anything about the case other than what I read in the article, my hang up is that a transit provider can make a phone call and destroy a customer's business with 30 minutes notice. On a DS3 that has actual real lead time to replace, that's a business killer. The argument of

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-15 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Frank Bulk wrote: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers? Even from that one-sided account, I have serious problems with: Siwert said the Colorado-based Level 3 cited

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-15 Thread Gerry Boudreaux
On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Frank Bulk wrote: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers? Even from that one-sided account, I have serious problems with:

SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-14 Thread Frank Bulk
http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers? Frank

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-14 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 14 Mar 2007, Frank Bulk wrote: http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/articlePrint.cfm?id=1310151 Is this a normal thing for Level 3 to do, cut off small, responsive providers? I heard from a few folks working for TelCove that they were under order to do whatever it took to disconnect

Re: SaidCom disconnected by Level 3 (former Telcove property)

2007-03-14 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On 3/14/07, david raistrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard from a few folks working for TelCove that they were under order to do whatever it took to disconnect customers under certian levels in my local area (not philly). Related? Dunno. Level3 recently stiffed us on a colo contract