Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-15 Thread Stephen Griffin
In the referenced message, Roy said: Registering is not bad, its just not beneficial. Given that the routes I want to announce are within my assigned range, why is it a good thing to register them? If the transit provider always add entries when I ask for them, it seems to be very little

limiting # of prefixes from a BGP peer (Was: Re: genuity - any good?)

2002-04-13 Thread Rafi Sadowsky
## On 2002-04-12 17:27 -0700 Mark Kent typed: MK MK To address Sean's point about mistakes turning one /16 into a zillion MK entries, is there any way to allow only some specified maximum number MK of routes from a bgp neighbor? I know that I'ld be happy if my MK upstreams gave me a buffer

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-13 Thread Jesper Skriver
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 04:53:38PM +0100, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Genuity - first class provider, I would recommend them What transit provider doesnt use prefixes? Do you think they're mad enough to accept anything you send them? And yes, they update the filter within minutes of you

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Roy
Two bad experiences for me: 1) Their BGP polices are not as good as others. They force you to register each route you want to advertise rather than allowing you to advertise any reasonable route for your prefixes. According to one of their top people, prefix-lists were unreliable new

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Eric Whitehill
on their circut due to an issue on their end. -Eric On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, matthew zeier wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 16:16:57 -0700 From: matthew zeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: genuity - any good? I've gotten attractive pricing from Genuity but I haven't used

RE: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Kris Foster
Quick correct, they are extended access-lists -Original Message- From: Kris Foster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 11:02 AM To: 'Roy'; matthew zeier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: genuity - any good? reasonable route for your prefixes. According

RE: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
'; matthew zeier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: genuity - any good? reasonable route for your prefixes. According to one of their top people, prefix-lists were unreliable new technology. We gave up and canceled the circuit. Genuity does use prefix lists (at least

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Apr 11, 2002 at 04:16:57PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: I've gotten attractive pricing from Genuity but I haven't used them in a couple years. Is there any reason I wouldn't want to use them as a third upstream OC3 provider? Genuity has a slightly backwards philosophy on delivering

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2002-04-11-19:16:57, matthew zeier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've gotten attractive pricing from Genuity but I haven't used them in a couple years. Is there any reason I wouldn't want to use them as a third upstream OC3 provider? From a customer service prospective, Genuity is excellent.

RE: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Martin, Christian
. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: genuity - any good? 1) Their BGP polices are not as good as others. They force you to register

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread matthew zeier
Pricing is a bit on the high side compared to other providers in their league, at least when I've had things quoted out recently. If you're looking for quality over quantity, I'd have no qualms recommending them. I found that quite the opposite. I was amazed that they matched my Internap

RE: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Daniel Golding
, Christian Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:31 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: genuity - any good? I think the argument is not about route filtering - it is the implementation method. Genuity uses ip extended access-lists

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Roy
MAY be announced from their customers, which I suppose has its merits. chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: genuity - any good

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Simon Lyall
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Roy wrote: 1) Their BGP polices are not as good as others. They force you to register each route you want to advertise rather than allowing you to advertise any reasonable route for your prefixes. One of our upstreams wanted this so we just ended up sending them every

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Stephen Griffin
In the referenced message, Roy said: Two bad experiences for me: 1) Their BGP polices are not as good as others. They force you to register each route you want to advertise rather than allowing you to advertise any reasonable route for your prefixes. According to one of their top

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Roy
Registering is not bad, its just not beneficial. Given that the routes I want to announce are within my assigned range, why is it a good thing to register them? If the transit provider always add entries when I ask for them, it seems to be very little benefit.. This is the case of transit so

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Aditya
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 04:50:20PM -0700, Roy wrote: Registering is not bad, its just not beneficial. Given that the routes I want to announce are within my assigned range, why is it a good thing to register them? If the transit provider always add entries when I ask for them, it seems to

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-12 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Roy wrote: Registering is not bad, its just not beneficial. Given that the routes I want to announce are within my assigned range, why is it a good thing to register them? If the transit provider always add entries when I ask for them, it seems to be very little

Re: genuity - any good?

2002-04-11 Thread Mark Kent
I've gotten attractive pricing from Genuity but I haven't used them in a couple years. Is there any reason I wouldn't want to use them as a third upstream OC3 provider? I think they are outstanding. After using a bunch-o'nsps from 1994 to 1998, including 5 at a time, we picked Genuity when