Re: i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-29 Thread Paul Vixie
This is a proven maneuver and Cogent is not the first to do it. i guess that without knowing who else these de-peered networks are customers of, it's hard for an outsider to guess which ratios into cogent's network by other peers will improve as a result of de-peering these networks. had you

i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-28 Thread Paul Vixie
at http://www.e-gerbil.net/cogent-t1r there is a plain text document with the following HTTP headers: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:56:34 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Unix) PHP/5.2.3 Last-Modified: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:15:53 GMT ETag: 92c1e1-a85-43b36ea5bcc40

RE: i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-28 Thread Randy Epstein
at http://www.e-gerbil.net/cogent-t1r there is a plain text document with the following HTTP headers: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:56:34 GMT Server: Apache/2.2.3 (Unix) PHP/5.2.3 Last-Modified: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:15:53 GMT ETag: 92c1e1-a85-43b36ea5bcc40

Re: i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-28 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 10:00:41PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: [snip] the second plain text assertion which caught my eye was: Why is this happening? There are a few possibilities. First, Cogent may simply want revenue from the networks it has de-peered, in the form of

Re: i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-28 Thread Paul Vixie
Randy Epstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clearly you can see the article was published by T1R in their Daily T1R report: http://www.t1r.com/ (listed under The Daily T1R Headlines) If you subscribe to the Daily T1R, you can find Dan's report issued today. Sorry, T1R.com requires Flash 8 or

Re: i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-28 Thread Daniel Golding
Paul, This is the scenario. Peer B is send lots of outbound to Peer A. Peer A depeers Peer (well former Peer) B. Why? Well, Peer A is having ratio problems with other Peers C-F. Keep reading... After depeering, some of (now former) Peer B's outbound traffic to Peer A will now flow over

Re: i think the cogent depeering thing is a myth of some kind

2007-09-28 Thread Daniel Golding
I don't know that NLayer was depeered yesteray for a fact, although someone I trust did report that to me. I do know for a fact that Limelight was. No offense to the good folk at nLayer, but most of the people who I work for care a good bit more about Limelight Didn't know about VW