Using HINFO (was Re: spamcop.net?)

2003-03-05 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Lou Katz wrote: your network and operation. Using these lists is a policy question for the network, and I would not like some external, probably unaccountable single point of policy. For most purposes, network addresses are involuntarily put on various blacklists. So it

RE: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread blitz
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of blitz Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: spamcop.net? Anyone having trouble getting to/ know of any issues with spamcop.net today? They seemed to have dropped off the radar from me

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not for nothing, but there's so much time wasted with all these diversified spam systems. Many of these systems have been shown to falsely flag non-spamming sites, and the more reliable ones unfortunately don't catch a majority of spammers. This

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread blitz
The only disadvantage I see, is a single point of failure, and a point for concentration of attacks. Marc At 13:14 3/4/03 -0600, you wrote: Thus spake Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not for nothing, but there's so much time wasted with all these diversified spam systems. Many of these

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread chuck goolsbee
Thus spake Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not for nothing, but there's so much time wasted with all these diversified spam systems. Many of these systems have been shown to falsely flag non-spamming sites, and the more reliable ones unfortunately don't catch a majority of spammers. So true.

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread Lou Katz
On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 02:52:06PM -0500, blitz wrote: The only disadvantage I see, is a single point of failure, and a point for concentration of attacks. Marc Also, it centralizes POWER! There are many different lists with different policies and criteria. Some are based on technically

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread Peter Salus
Bravo, Lou! Anyway, one of the *virtues* of the Net has always been its anarchic and chaotic nature. Trying to set things into neat, regimented lines will get us back to the OSI way of doing things. I revile spammers, hate spam, and throw out tons of it; but I'd hate regimentation and

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-04 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Hannigan) writes: I applaud RBL, spamcop, etc., but without funding and consolidation, it's another waste of offensive time that could be spent on a far more effective defense. i had no idea that MAPS was unfunded. do tell. -- Paul Vixie

spamcop.net?

2003-03-03 Thread blitz
Anyone having trouble getting to/ know of any issues with spamcop.net today? They seemed to have dropped off the radar from me... No pings No traceroute but they still show registered at 216.127.43.89 Tnx Marc macronet.net

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-03 Thread Will Yardley
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:41:21PM -0500, blitz wrote: Anyone having trouble getting to/ know of any issues with spamcop.net today? They seemed to have dropped off the radar from me... No pings No traceroute but they still show registered at 216.127.43.89 One of my customers wrote

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, blitz wrote: Anyone having trouble getting to/ know of any issues with spamcop.net today? They seemed to have dropped off the radar from me... No pings No traceroute but they still show registered at 216.127.43.89 laptop ~]$ t 216.127.43.89 80 Trying

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
getting to/ know of any issues with spamcop.net today? They seemed to have dropped off the radar from me... No pings No traceroute but they still show registered at 216.127.43.89 laptop ~]$ t 216.127.43.89 80 Trying 216.127.43.89... Connected to 216.127.43.89 (216.127.43.89). Escape

Re: spamcop.net?

2003-03-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
trouble getting to/ know of any issues with spamcop.net today? They seemed to have dropped off the radar from me... No pings No traceroute but they still show registered at 216.127.43.89 laptop ~]$ t 216.127.43.89 80 Trying 216.127.43.89... Connected to 216.127.43.89