i wrote:
transit prices have been in free fall, and worldcom has not been
following them downward. however, after the cleansing ritual of
chapter 11, i think they will be in a fine position to reset their
per-megabit charges in ways that make them a compelling transit
provider. their
note that $170/Mbit is actually below cost for any network smaller than
sprint's or uunet's, once you figure in the people, the routes, the
rent, and the depreciation, and then fuzz it based on economies of
scale. however, the market hasn't bottomed yet, and most people still
don't know
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Subject: Re: sprint passes uu?
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 07:25:15PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's hard to know how large a percentage though without knowing how
many
Sprint customers are also UU customers. i.e. The combination of
Sprint
and UU customer routes could still
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shawn Solomon) writes:
I'm curious to know how many of those UU customers are just waiting for
their contracts to expire before giving them the big F.U.
transit prices have been in free fall, and worldcom has not been following
them downward. however, after the cleansing
transit prices have been in free fall, and worldcom has not been following
them downward. however, after the cleansing ritual of chapter 11, i think
they will be in a fine position to reset their per-megabit charges in ways
that make them a compelling transit provider. their network's been
Their acctg issues are widely known, as well as their 99 pricing in 2001.
Hook up with a customer of theirs as a provider and let the provider duke
it out with em. A lot of folks like to dual home with Sprint and UUnet,
and that solution does get you a lot from a networking perspective.
Valdis writes:
| About the only conclusion that you can *safely* draw is that Sprint has a
| more complicated network than UU does.
This runs contrary to many years of architecture and design philosophy,
and indeed to deployment history based upon that. Obviously we could
have very different
I don't know if anyone cares or is keeping track, but it seems that Sprint
has now passed UU in number of customer routes (or at least, routes sent
to peers).
x.x.x.x 4 1239 2396636 438162 6144276100 9w3d47637
x.x.x.x 4 701 3768775 499186 6144276100 1w5d
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:03:17 EDT, Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Looks like UU routes have been steadily falling, dunno if they aggregated
(hah!) or just lost customers due to, well, you know. But by the metrics
people/reporters have been using to declare UU half the
VK Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 17:25:21 -0400
VK From: Valdis Kletnieks
RAS Looks like UU routes have been steadily falling, dunno if
RAS they aggregated (hah!) or just lost customers due to, well,
RAS you know. But by the metrics people/reporters have been
RAS using to declare UU half the
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Brian wrote:
The interesting part of that to me is that the total number of prefixes in
a full feed is in the low 100,000 range, so this still represents a very
large percentage of the entire prefix pie.
x.x.x.x 4 1239 2396636 438162 6144276100 9w3d
UUNET isn't just AS 701-- it also includes 702, 703, and
a large set of other ASes around the globe.
...and number of announcements isn't a particularly useful
yardstick for measuring the percentage of the Internet any
given entity operates.
- jsb
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Richard
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 15 Oct 2002, Brian wrote:
It's hard to know how large a percentage though without knowing how many
Sprint customers are also UU customers. i.e. The combination of Sprint
and UU customer routes could still be just 47637 prefixes,
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 07:25:15PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's hard to know how large a percentage though without knowing how many
Sprint customers are also UU customers. i.e. The combination of Sprint
and UU customer routes could still be just 47637 prefixes, though I'm sure
On Tue, Oct 15, 2002 at 08:10:16PM -0400, Jeff Barrows wrote:
UUNET isn't just AS 701-- it also includes 702, 703, and
a large set of other ASes around the globe.
702 and 703 routes were included in that number.
--
Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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