Re: misc cisco parts

2002-12-18 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Stephen Stuart wrote: http://www.rackears.com/ Damn, I'm in the wrong business. From the above-mentioned site: Cisco Cat. 2924M/2912M (2U) style kit$40.00 C Stephen

Re: misc cisco parts

2002-12-18 Thread up
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Charles Sprickman wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Stephen Stuart wrote: http://www.rackears.com/ Damn, I'm in the wrong business. From the above-mentioned site: Cisco Cat. 2924M/2912M (2U) style kit$40.00 Think that's high? Check out Cisco's price, and you'll see

Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Dale Levesque
Anyone happen to have more information on the problems that have been happening with the peering between Cogent and Level3. Cogent gives the standard answer when you call support, but some more specific information would be great. Thanks Dale

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread sigma
Possibly a result of this: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=threadid=96985 Kevin Anyone happen to have more information on the problems that have been happening with the peering between Cogent and Level3. Cogent gives the standard answer when you call support, but some more

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Mike Tancsa
Might have to do with http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-bandwidth/0212/msg00978.html (AOL vs Cogent Peering issue) ---Mike At 09:51 AM 18/12/2002 -0500, Dale Levesque wrote: Anyone happen to have more information on the problems that have been happening with the peering between

Change of dates for Nordnog-2

2002-12-18 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
Due to announcement of the NANOG dates that collides with NordNOG, NordNOG will change the dates. NordNOG-2 will be held at 13-14 February 2002. The change of dates also means that we will change the venue. The venue for the conference will be : Marievik Konferens Årstaängsvägen 1 B

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread william
AOL (AS1668) stopped peering with cogent yesterday for reasons they did not disclose publicly. Cogent sends same letter to all customers who asked for what is going on and in the letter they say that two weeks ago, peering to AOL was upgraded to OC48 from OC12 and now for some reason AOL

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:44:55AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AOL (AS1668) stopped peering with cogent yesterday for reasons they did not disclose publicly. Cogent sends same letter to all customers who asked for what is going on and in the letter they say that two weeks ago,

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Basil Kruglov
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:12:02PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:44:55AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AOL (AS1668) stopped peering with cogent yesterday for reasons they did not disclose publicly. Cogent sends same letter to all customers who

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread william
I pointed that out on another list too but somebody else responded that abovenet to aol connection is congested as it is and more then likely would not have been able to take all the extra traffic. I'm not a customer of MFN/abovenet so I really do not know but I did not like it how cogent

IWon/Excite mail admin...

2002-12-18 Thread Gabriel
Hello all, I've been trying (rather unsuccessfully) to get a hold of iwon/excite. They're blocking my mail servers (safepages.com domain), and I'd like to talk to them about it. My question: Does anyone have a NOC or mail admin contact for Excite/Iwon that they would be willing to share?

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 10:02:13AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I pointed that out on another list too but somebody else responded that abovenet to aol connection is congested as it is and more then likely would not have been able to take all the extra traffic. I'm

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread alex
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 08:44:55AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AOL (AS1668) stopped peering with cogent yesterday for reasons they did not disclose publicly. Cogent sends same letter to all customers who asked for what is going on and in the letter they say that two weeks

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:24:31PM -0600, Basil Kruglov wrote: Why wouldn't Cogent create a community string to provide its multihomed customers with prepend 16631 (or customer asn) to Level3 peering sessions to control inbounds better? Me thinks Cogent doesn't have a problem with

NANOG 27 Information

2002-12-18 Thread Carol Wadsworth
Meeting registration for NANOG 27, February 9-11, 2003, in Phoenix will open on January 2. Hotel information is now posted at: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/hotel.html Call for Presentations: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/call27.html (Note: deadline for proposals is January 6.)

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Basil Kruglov
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:36:04PM -0500, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Why wouldn't Cogent create a community string to provide its multihomed customers with prepend 16631 (or customer asn) to Level3 peering sessions to control inbounds better? Me thinks Cogent doesn't have a problem

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread alex
Me thinks Cogent doesn't have a problem with congestion on the inbound direction. Fix your reverse path. Customers of Cogent should be/are more concerned about congestion on the inbounds at Level3 - Cogent; outbound is way too easy to control. Cogent has a pile of available inbound -

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Basil Kruglov
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 03:23:04PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me thinks Cogent doesn't have a problem with congestion on the inbound direction. Fix your reverse path. Customers of Cogent should be/are more concerned about congestion on the inbounds at Level3 - Cogent;

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread william
Thing is if your connection is completely full one way, it'll effect traffic the other way too. It should not be happening with syncronyous connections, but practical observation is that it does! I suspect router hardware is to blame (possibly packet cache is way full) and I'v seen it happen

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread Petri Helenius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is if your connection is completely full one way, it'll effect traffic the other way too. It should not be happening with syncronyous connections, but practical observation is that it does! I suspect router hardware is to blame (possibly packet cache is way

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread alex
Me thinks Cogent doesn't have a problem with congestion on the inbound direction. Fix your reverse path. Customers of Cogent should be/are more concerned about congestion on the inbounds at Level3 - Cogent; outbound is way too easy to control. Cogent has a pile of

Re: Cogent and Level3 Peering Issues

2002-12-18 Thread alex
Of course, your right about what needs to be fixed! But situation with cogent is such that I do not have that option. Their peering link with level3 is congested because of all the traffic going to AOL and some of traffic destined to me is going through same link the other way and

Any good fiber cuts today?

2002-12-18 Thread Sean Donelan
So what is the story on fiber cuts today? Several people asked me, but I didn't have anything.

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2002-12-18 Thread Ringdahl, Dwight (WebUseNet)
Thing is if your connection is completely full one way, it'll effect traffic the other way too. My thoughts are Cogents primary customers are sites that are looking for very cheap bandwidth, which most likely is adult content. Therefore they would look more like a content provider than a

Re:

2002-12-18 Thread David Diaz
I have to disagree with you. I dont think most of their customers are adult content or the likes looking for cheap transit. I think there model was to attract business users that wouldnt use the full pipe. They can burst but arent expected to saturate the pipe 24x7. It's not a bad model,

Old news but DirectTVDSL is /dev/null

2002-12-18 Thread Joe
Fyi http://www.directvinternet.com/ another one bites the dust.

UseNet Feeds.

2002-12-18 Thread Ringdahl, Dwight (WebUseNet)
If anyone has a usenet server and would like a feed let me know. (FYI current full feed is 72mb/s) We also can peer bandwidth at any of our sites which you can see at http://www.webusenet.com/peering.html (PAIX ATL and Palo Alto are too) Thanks Dwight

Cogent

2002-12-18 Thread Ringdahl, Dwight (WebUseNet)
But they let them all go. So ones the chef(s) were out the door, who maintains it? It's not exactly a status quo situation. It was treated in house as, well we have the peering so why do we need all these pain in the butt expensive guys? We could use another one or two of these

Re: Cogent

2002-12-18 Thread David Diaz
Well I believe some are doing consulting. And expensive is relative. I think their multimillion investment with worth more then a couple of guys salaries. Different peers want to see different things. Some want balanced traffic, certain traffic levels, number of locations etc etc. Many of

Cogent / AOL peering issues

2002-12-18 Thread Gil Cohen
Some possibly good information about what's going on: Cogent had a test peering arrangement with AOL. That means that it was just a test to see what the ratio of cogent/aol traffic is to see whether or not they qualify for a real peering arrangement. Cogent did not meet that requirement, so AOL

Re: Cogent / AOL peering issues

2002-12-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 10:00:48PM -0500, Gil Cohen wrote: I think AOL purchases transit from L(3), so by Cogent pushing all their AOL-bound traffic through their L(3) peering pipes, they're hoping that it'll push AOL's transit bill up. This is going to be their playing card. I think. Not

Re: your mail

2002-12-18 Thread Eric Gauthier
My thoughts are Cogents primary customers are sites that are looking for very cheap bandwidth, which most likely is adult content. Therefore they would look more like a content provider than a transit provider. Cogent is making in roads at a lot of Universities who want, as we all know,

NANOG == IBEW-L?

2002-12-18 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2002-12-18-23:10:48, Brian Wallingford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking for an electrical contractor in the northeast (preferably in the Providence/Boston area) capable of placing an existing Lorain rectifier battery array in service. All work must comply to local (Providence) code. Job

Re:

2002-12-18 Thread Scott Granados
I wonder if this isn't a way to slap cogent around for their lower price points. After all how much grumbling do we hear on various lists about $30 / meg. Seems there is more to this story because on the surface this makes no sense. Why would an eyeball provider remove itself from the content