Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...

2007-11-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 11/3/07, Allan Liska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is just anecdotal, but I have Verizon FIOS in Northern Virginia and I have not seen sitefinder pop up. I just verified with a few sites to make sure. http://www.irbs.net/internet/nanog/0607/0139.html oops, I was right (kinda).

Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...

2007-11-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 11/5/07, Eliot Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cough. So, how much is that NXDOMAIN worth to you? So, here's the problem really... NXDOMAIN is being judged as a 'problem'. It's really only a 'problem' for a small number of APPLICATIONS on the Internet. One could even argue that in a

Re: Abusive traffic from Microsoft China?

2007-11-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 11/8/07, Dave Pooser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks fishy. Why would a company the size of Microsoft register a single /25? I doubt MS really owns that block. especially since I think MS knows how to spell its own name: descr:Microsft (China) Co.Ltd they provider (CNC

Re: cpu needed to NAT 45mbs

2007-11-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 11/8/07, Carl Karsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do the networking in my house, and hang out with guys that do networking in small offices that have a few T1s. Now I am talking to people about a DS3 connection for 500 laptops*, and I am bing told a p4 linux box with 2 nics doing NAT

Re: VLANs

2007-11-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 11/13/07, Rodney Joffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are any of you operators utilizing VLANs to/with your transit providers in order to isolate traffic types or services, and/or to assist in traffic shaping before it hits your transit connections (isolating the effects of DDoS's)? There was

Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?

2007-12-17 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 17, 2007 10:29 AM, Sean Siler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all for your private replies - I have the answer now. (It appears to be Free.fr, if you are interested.) http://www.iliad.fr/en/presse/2007/CP_IPv6_121207_eng.pdf I'm glad they managed to get in all the hype for v6

Re: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?

2007-12-17 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 17, 2007 9:59 PM, Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [re: v6 mythos] In a slightly more realistic vein, a huge address space makes life harder for scanning worms. As Angelos

Re: /48 for each and every endsite (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?)

2007-12-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 19, 2007 5:03 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 19 Dec 2007, Jeroen Massar wrote: new as in We already have one, but we actually didn't really know what we where requesting, now we need more We got our current block in 2000 (or earlier, I don't know for sure,

Re: /56 for home sites, /48 for business sites billing considerations (Was: European ISP enables IPv6 for all?)

2007-12-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 19, 2007 6:19 AM, Mohacsi Janos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: b) get a 'power users' abo, which would thus make people have to PAY for getting more IP addresses. They aready do it. In Hungary, if you are home user you can have 1 single IPv4 address. If you are a business customer,

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 21, 2007 6:48 AM, Joe Greco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I'm having some trouble envisioning a residential end user that honestly has a need for 256 networks with sufficiently differently policies. Or that a firewall device can't reasonably deal with those policies even on a single

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 22, 2007 1:45 AM, Mark Townsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Greco wrote: I'd say skip the /64 and /48. Don't do the /64, as future-proofing. A /48 is just something I cannot see need for, given the number of addresses available as a /56, unless the home user is actually

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 22, 2007 12:23 PM, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 01:33:15PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote: For example... Within one's own network (or subnet if you will) we can absorb all the concepts of V4 today and have lots of space available. For example... for

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 23, 2007 8:44 PM, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and trying to keep 50k machines updated with proper resolvers (in the simplest example) is easier with RA than DHCP how? do you really mean skip RA or all of autoconf? I think what makes sense is to use the parts of ipv6 that

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Dec 27, 2007 5:27 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With IPv4, a lot of these features are developed by vendors and (sometimes) later standardized in the IETF or elsewhere. With IPv6, the vendors haven't quite caught up with the IETF standardization efforts yet, so the

Re: rtcomm.ru

2008-01-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 2, 2008 10:29 PM, Patrick Clochesy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By the way... your site is down :) which site? (merit? nanog? cogent? rtcomm? alphared? 'your site' with 3 this many involved parties leaves things a little ambiguous :( Error Occurred While Processing Request Error

Re: can the memory technology save the routing table size scalability problem?

2008-01-08 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 8, 2008 9:25 PM, yangyang. wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As we known, the DFZ RIB size expand rapidly. It may be resolved via router architecture improvement, such as adding memory chips or compressing RIB. or via changing routing and addressing scheme, which one will be the long-term

Re: Off Topic

2008-01-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 15, 2008 2:42 PM, Rod Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the risk of incurring Mr. Pilosoft's wrath (the Putin of NANOG?), I'll he's not a bad guy actually :) it's a rough job corralling all the -admin folks I'm certain. Also this isn't really that off topic is it? looking for NANOG

Re: BGP Filtering

2008-01-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 15, 2008 2:02 PM, Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Ben Butler wrote: I want a filter that will automatically match the shorter prefixes that match any longer prefix, once I can match them I can drop them. I don't want to manually configure a static prefix

Re: [Fwd: Unstable BGP Peerings?]

2008-01-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 13, 2008 6:56 PM, Paul Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Interesting, given that TTNet sits atop this ranking: https://nssg.trendmicro.com/nrs/reports/rank.php?page=1 I wonder if this is somehow related? ;-) probably not... but only

Re: Level3/GTEI well-known DNS down?

2008-01-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On 21 Jan 2008 19:36:04 +, Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tony Finch) writes: Not to start a debate but I've used OpenDNS since last year and been VERY happy with it It's fine if you don't mind your DNS server lying to you. i was told that if one

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-23 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 23, 2008 2:08 PM, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Freedman wrote: Will somebody please, please PLEASE let me know what magic process for networksolutions are to get glue added, am on the 72nd hour of the phone game where questions are bouncing between: as far as

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

2008-01-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 24, 2008 10:55 AM, Matt Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: o netsol understands glue REGISTRY part of NetSol here, I think David means the REGISTRAR part no? To my knowledge, there is no registry part of Network Solutions

Re: Worst Offenders/Active Attackers blacklists

2008-01-29 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 29, 2008 7:14 AM, Ben Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or, to ask the question another way, would the low % of infrastructure backbone attacks increase if the infrastructure started blocking effectively attacks rather than completing them through null routing the target. If the

Re: Blackholing traffic by ASN

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Jan 30, 2008 3:54 PM, Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is prior art. (Assuming your hardware has a hardware blackhole (or you have a little router sitting on the end of a circuit)) you adjust your route-map that would deny the entry to set a community or next-hop pointing to

Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.

2008-02-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Feb 2, 2008 3:39 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The bigger issue with all these approaches is that they run afoul of a patent applied for by ATT: http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u

Re: IPv6 Connectivity Saga (part n+1)

2008-02-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Feb 2, 2008 6:24 PM, Thomas Kühne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another factor is that with IPv4, you need to be pragmatic, because if you don't, you have no connectivity. With IPv6, you can impose arbitrary restrictions as much as you want, because IPv4 makes sure there is always fallback

Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.

2008-02-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Morrow Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 12:58 PM To: Tomas L. Byrnes Cc: Ben Butler; Paul Vixie; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack. On Feb 2, 2008 3:39 PM

Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.

2008-02-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Feb 3, 2008 2:53 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3: Backbone routers can't reasonably filter on a bunch of /32s and also forward traffic at wire speed. yes they can. the size of the individual route doesn't matter to the devices in question, the NUMBER of routes does... (as

Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.

2008-02-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Feb 3, 2008 5:18 PM, Ben Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, snip your point here is that perhaps instead of this scheme one would just advertise the max-prefix-length (/24 currently) from a 'better' place on your network and suck all the 'bad' traffic (all traffic in point of fact)

Re: Repotting report

2008-02-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Feb 6, 2008 12:11 AM, Mark Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (from me) How does a cache-resolver know that it's time to issue a query with edns0? cache-resolver that support EDNS0 will make EDNS0 queries by default. They will fallback to plain DNS if the query

Re: YouTube IP Hijacking

2008-02-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2: Within a jurisdiction where North American operators have a good chance of having the law on their side in case of any network outage caused by the entity. This is also a bit strange. Do your users never

Re: YouTube IP Hijacking

2008-02-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:32 AM, Hank Nussbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we've been warning that this could happen *again* - this is happening every day - just look to: http://cs.unm.edu/~karlinjf/IAR/prefix.php?filter=most http://cs.unm.edu/~karlinjf/IAR/subprefix.php?filter=most So,

Re: [admin] [summary] RE: YouTube IP Hijacking

2008-02-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:40 AM, hjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that they should use remote triggered blackhole filtering with no-export community. In this way they do the job with no impact on the rest of internet. so, certainly this isn't a bad idea, but given as an example:

Re: YouTube IP Hijacking

2008-02-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Joel Jaeggli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Payne wrote: On Feb 25, 2008, at 1:22 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: except that even the 'good guys' make mistakes. Belt + suspenders please... is it really that hard for a network service provider

Re: Tools to measure TCP connection speed

2008-03-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Joe Shen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, is there any tool could measue e2e TCP connection speed? e.g. we want to measue the delay between the TCP SYN and receiving SYN ACK packet. So, all you want to know is basic RTT? Do you want to know about the

Re: Peering with the Internet Alert Registry

2008-03-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Josh Karlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Some of you are aware of the site for network operators: http://iar.cs.unm.edu/ which has running for two years now. The purpose of the site is to detect and distribute network anomaly information to the network

Re: Customer-facing ACLs

2008-03-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Ang Kah Yik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Justin (and all others on-list) I understand your grounds for blocking outbound SMTP for your customers (especially those on dynamic IP connections). It probably will do good to block infected customers that are

Re: Customer-facing ACLs

2008-03-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:27 AM, Jo Rhett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Shore wrote: I'm assuming everyone uses uRPF at all their edges already so that eliminates the need for specific ACEs with ingress/egress network verification checks. ha. I only wish that was true. We do

Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-16 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 2:07 AM, Glen Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Also: I have seen instances where a static route points to a next hop that (inadvertently) may be redistribute-static injected into BGP. This happens occasionally due to ad hoc configurations, back-

Re: NXDOMAIN data needed for survey

2008-03-20 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Steve Atkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He's Marlon Phillips, [EMAIL PROTECTED], I'm pretty sure, though which particular squatter company he represents, I've no idea. where does mapcom.net go? bizland.net ... registered through verisign and hosted at

Re: cooling door

2008-03-31 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:24 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's make it simple and say it in plain English. The users of services have made the decision that it is good enough to be a user of a service hosted in a data center that is remote from the client. Remote means in another

Re: Does TCP Need an Overhaul? (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (i'd hate to think that everybody would have to buy roberts' (anagran's) Fast Flow Technology at every node of their network to make this work. that doesn't sound inexpensive to me. I suppose he could try to sell it...

Re: Fwd: Problems sending mail from .mumble

2008-04-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:50:25 EDT, Barry Shein said: So this is (yet another) fishing expidition -- as MIME types are a handy list, if any of those strings were present in a header, as in [EMAIL PROTECTED], would any

Re: Fwd: Problems sending mail from .mumble

2008-04-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2008-04-14, Christopher Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's got some interesting implications if it's: domain.exe ... 'did you mean to go to domain.exe or execute domain.exe or display domain.pdf ?' the UI