Re: cost of dual-stack vs cost of v6-only [Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers?]

In a message written on Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 03:26:48PM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Leo Bicknell wrote: ISP's are very good at one thing, driving out unnecessary cost. Running dual stack increases cost. While I'm not sure about the 5 year part, I'm sure ISP's will move

Re: cost of dual-stack vs cost of v6-only [Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers?]

it was built in the last 20 years. Now think hard about a prediction we'll still be running IPv4 in 20 years. A two decade transition period just does not fit this industry's history. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell

Re: IPv6 on SOHO routers?

ISP's will move to disable IPv4 support as soon as the market will let them as a cost saving measure. Runing for decades dual stacked does not make a lot of economic sense for all involved. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell

Re: NetworkSolutions - Was: Re: v6 gluelessness

can't say you accept IPv6 addresses or you can't run xyz, pass it on. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpVou32OC1B2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: request for help w/ ATT and terminology

problems is the front line support tend to not be creative thinkers, and also tend to believe their internal terminology is industry standard speak. This can make it difficult to get what you want. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

deployment yet, and I can't imagine it's all that hard to send a default gateway in DHCPv6, for example. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpgZ7FayQI7H.pgp Description: PGP

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

. Those are things I use on a regular basis I'd really rather not manually configure. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpy9pOPQJ1De.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

. Having not looked in great detail, I am unclear if IPv6 has done something to fix this concern or not. Is this feature going to get turned off when the first worm comes along that spoofs RA's -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

interesting to me if the answer was it's moot because we're going to move to CGA's as a step forward; it would be equally interesting if the answer is CGA isn't ready for prime time / we can't deploy it for xyz reason, so IPv6 is less secure than IPv4 today and that's a problem. -- Leo Bicknell

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

, but rather design frameworks that make deploying updates easier? Naw. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpsHIxUjPTnw.pgp Description: PGP signature

RIPE is just more fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0 -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpIykjL04NwK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Internet access in Japan (was Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets)

should be eager to offer it; but don't. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpNxh4Oz1PEV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

on the Wikipedia page under US, CableVision, is said to have 30Mbps down 5Mbps up. That's 1:6, at a heck of a lot higher speeds. I think most people here would be quite happy with that offering. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG

Verizon has been listening to nanog.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2007-10-23-verizon-fios-plan_N.htm 20 Mbps down, 20 Mbps up, fully symmetrical for $65. Strangely enough it's where they compete with CableVisions 30Mbps down, 5Mbps up plan first. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys

Re: The next broadband killer: advanced operating systems?

with a single TCP connection they both do the same thing. On a very busy web server the first may make it fall over, the second should not. YMMV. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

) Is that accurate? 2) What technology to the use to offer the service at that price point? 3) Is there any chance US providers could offer similar technologies at similar prices, or are there significant differences (regulation, distance etc) that prevent it from being viable? -- Leo

The next broadband killer: advanced operating systems?

situation? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgphJlpgm86OO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Why do we use facilities with EPO's?

that it overrides the increased cost and the reduced redundancy that are necessitated by that location? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpLvtSetOd1U.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: TransAtlantic Cable Break

to effectively giving up all redundancy. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpjj9hZefNgy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DHCPv6, was: Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

and not deployable. [Note: How wise it is to put a brand new box on the net is a different question, the point is it should just work.] -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: The Chicken or the Egg.

a chance at getting addresses 30 days out (or so) if everything looks good. If I'm completely off base (which is always possible) I'm sure the rep can tell you the shortest path between you and more IP addresses. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http

Re: Wikipedia/Cogent

://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cogent_Communications -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp4h9GI95riM.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]

service. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpZMDMWSKGco.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]

. If you're company is anywhere near such a cliff, run, quickly, to the nearest exit. It will be bad when they get it wrong. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]

want to sell some more limited service, fine, give it a new name because it's not Internet Access. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpqDMuJvmVsZ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: multi homing pressure

those more into BGP routing analysis to look at that (possible) trend. It's probably causing a shift in how BGP processing occures on both a device and a network level (more redundant paths) which could have implications for future gear. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440

Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

the design of the network may be. Level 3 and Cogent are both actively causing this outage. It's not some grand design failure. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Did we forget that ISP's are businesses?

responsible for the outage, and are trying to use that fact to lure customers. That makes me wonder if they've written off Level 3 entirely already...after all if you're planning on working out a deal with someone you don't rub salt in their wounds as a first step. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL

Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

with the business model of one, or both of these companies. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpYhJeDjKGD9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: IPv6 Address Planning

subnets will they need. This is why many people are proposing a /56 for home users, as it gives you 256 subnets. Still more than most people will need. Others have proposed /52 and /60, since many want to claim DNS is easier if done in nibbles. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE

Re: IPv6 Address Planning

with no group clearly leading in the polls. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp3VgWJ3KbYd.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Cisco IOS Exploit Cover Up

discussion about what this paper/presentation means, and what action if any they are taking as a result. Somehow for what the boxes and support costs that doesn't seem like too much to ask. The presentation is out there, we will get it and read it, don't pretend like we won't. -- Leo Bicknell

Re: Cisco IOS Exploit Cover Up

be in a world of hurt if anyone who figured out how to put a lift kit on his pickup was sued by ford for disassembling the truck and figuring out their propretary internal designs. Why is software special? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org

Re: Cisco and the tobacco industry

manages to take over twenty or thirty thousand routers thoughI suspect a flood of calls Cisco's direction. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp9GBnQdiX4D.pgp Description: PGP

Re: PAIX Outages

that operators are doing their job. There should be enough redundancy in the system that loss of any one site, for whatever reason, doesn't cause a major, or even minor disruption. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List

Re: Paul Wilson and Geoff Huston of APNIC on IP address allocation ITU v/s ICANN etc

and/or the IETF processes. Network engineers with hands on day to day experience tend to be underrepresented in both forums. For those of you in North America (after all, this is NANOG) check out ARIN's Public Policy Mailing List, information is on ARIN's web site. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: T1 vs. T2 [WAS: Apology: [Tier-2 reachability and multihoming]]

wonky is being done it's done with selective leaking of routes in one or both directions, never ever ever with a full table. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery

. The RIR's will change policy as time goes on to fit the changing IPv6 world. Let them deal with the policy on a going forward basis. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: ULA and RIR cost-recovery

, and with technologies like DHCP and the like it is much easier for many end users to live with IP's from their upstream, even if they change once in a while. Couple that with a (very small) amount of paperwork and fees and you do cut out many of the frivolous uses. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE

Re: BBC does IPv6 ;) (Was: large multi-site enterprises and PI

researchers are bringing forth this view. 8 years too late guys. We've figured out table management. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpoiI7os23h2.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Stupid Ipv6 question...

to a /128 seems to work just fine. If anyone knows of gear imposing narrower limits on what can be configured I'd be facinated to know about them. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: I want my own IPs

if you can justify that you'll use it within the next 3-6 months. Note, if you are multi-homed the prefix length is a /22. http://www.arin.net/policy/2002_3.html -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL

Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

, and other configs, or is it easier to run NAT at the edge to convert your local network to public IP's? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpO8g7Lfssrm.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

what the impact will be on the network. Good product design means designing for people who do stupid stuff with your product, to a certain degree. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

it. There is not a competition angle here. There is a huge question of how you're going to run a registry with no funding though. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

be -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

your NAT code, I'm not sure what will be the barrier to IPv6 NAT. I would love to see a solid technical reason why IPv6 NAT will NOT work. In the absense of that I will stick to my guns and say that it will work and be available, and most likely sooner rather than later. -- Leo Bicknell

Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

for the working group is at http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/ipv6-charter.html, and includes their mailing list archives and information on how to subscribe and/or post. Even if you disagree with me, much like voting the important thing is that you voice your opinion. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

of global uniqueness that are at best inappropriate, at worst a road to disaster. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp3IhQIqfPjN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

anymore. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org

Re: Important IPv6 Policy Issue -- Your Input Requested

be randomly assigned worldwide out of a single /7. Distilled down the proposal makes no sense. 1 You can have globally unique addresses. 2 You can use them between organizations. a If your organization is an ISP, please don't allow them on the Internet. -- Leo Bicknell

Re: APNIC Privacy of customer assignment records - implementation update

of a solution. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpx6vVNt3du2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DS-3 extended demarc photos

) they will probably still insist on batteries in their own rack. So, it's not quite a does not trust anyone, but for practical matters in non-(telco)datacenter buildings that is true. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG

Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?]

to do things like charge a 0-mile local loop for a fiber across the room people think it's too much, and run their own over the wall fiber. However since it's technically not allowed it's hidden, unlabeled, abandoned when unused, and creates a huge mess. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ultradns reachability

consider they are all high profile DDoS targets as well. If it were trivial, more GTLD's would be doing it. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpIUv2wbknuR.pgp Description: PGP

Re: ultradns reachability

this is just a slam dunk. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpl7qJSgADVu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: what's going on with yahoo and gmail lately?

services I take great pleasure that people want to do that to their e-mail, because in the end it is more bits moving across my network. If google helps people send bigger e-mails, with more attachments and more graphics and so on good for them! More bits for all of us to bill. -- Leo

Akamai DNS Issue?

? Comments from Akamai? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgpfJT8Kq8B1k.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: AboveNet major backbone issues

at this time. Customers who have problems should send in a traceroute (bidirectional if at all possible) to the usual support channels. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes your the bug. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read

Re: Cisco HFR

to direct information and data on a network. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp2XZoR1LnUi.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: TCP/BGP vulnerability - easier than you think

] anywhere to the left of the window were treated as valid. It's a good thing the 4.4BSD stack was unpopular, otherwise it might be in a lot of programs. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Sprint Help

providers who have software that tweeks users computer settings (which I have issues with, but if you do it...) should think about tweeking the value up for 98/NT/2000 users as part of the default software install. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http

Re: Sprint Help

In a message written on Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 11:08:21AM -0800, Michel Py wrote: Leo Bicknell wrote Your problem is right here: 14 urish-pitts-gw.centrepc.net (67.97.250.166) 100 msec * 100 msec NT in many configs defaults to a TCP Window size of 8k, other NT and Server 2000 default

Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses

can in a 1500 byte packet, which means 1/6th the interrupts, DMA transfers, ACL checks, etc, etc, etc. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses

as a single 1520 byte packet, if it could be carried, is 98.7% efficient. Obviously talking in smaller numbers, but to a lot of VPN vendors 1.4% improvement in bandwidth usage, bus usage, or avoiding the path through the device that fragments a packet in the first place is a big win. -- Leo

Re: Strange public traceroutes return private RFC1918 addresses

, in large volumes between two end points they control. The Internet is not just web servers feeding dial-up clients. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Impending (mydoom) DOS attack

than it attacks www.sco.com), that would be welcome. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Impending (mydoom) DOS attack

the means in the case of worms. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: example.com/net/org DNS records

with an intelligent error message that seeks to educate them is pleasing. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Routeviews and possible 0/0 route

table. That can {cause all sorts of analysis problems,give you a view into things you wouldn't normally see}. YMMV. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description

Re: AS Path Loops in practice ?

internally, other things use them (eg, route servers), easier to talk customers through configs on the phone, allows customers who have IP space but not an ASN to announce to the Internet without the provider having to announce directly. I'll bet there are more I can't remember. -- Leo

Re: AS Path Loops in practice ?

must never be connected to another network (this is for multiple connections to a single provider only) to prevent the wonky AS path issues, and second the customer must have a default via some mechanism. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org

Re: Above.net problems ??

in Europe), our operations should be back to normal. If anyone is still seeing above.net issues please open a ticket through the normal channels. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Above.net problems ??

the customer aware of why #2 and #3 are bad. I haven't proven #3 yet, it's based on other peoples reports, so I might be wrong about the software's exact behavior. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: TAT 14 failure

still be operational. Both problems are undersea issues, so don't expect speedy resolution if you are down. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Above.net problems ??

some of our routes. Maybe it's an innocent misconfiguration, but if not please stop. In any event, I'm trying to track that down now and make it better. We're working as hard as we can to fix the problems. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http

Re: Router with 2 (or more) interfaces in same network

this hack as otherwise you've got a messy config that didn't do what the customer wanted anyway. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Router with 2 (or more) interfaces in same network

should support that type of configuration. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd)

not. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [arin-announce] IPv4 Address Space (fwd)

operators unable to act on the traffic at the same level they can today. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: IAB concerns against permanent deployment of edge-based filtering

that wants to run multiple services. I'm not saying ISP's shouldn't filter, but the long term filtering is a problem. It will cause application developers to do things that will make long term filtering not work, in the end. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys

Re: IAB concerns against permanent deployment of edge-based filtering

). -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: more on VeriSign to revive redirect service

. When left with no choice, engineers will work around any problem. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Internet privacy

. Is that that good enough (for domains, IP allocations, or other things served up via whois)? Is it key we know the owners real identity, or just know enough information to be able to contact them? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read

Proposed changes to the AUP.

that the topic is in violation of the AUP and should cease. Chronic offenders will be notified personally that their messages may be filtered or that they may be removed from the list as deemed appropriate by the conveners. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440

Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down

get to vote with your dollars, which really means no dollars, no vote, no support. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Another DNS blacklist is taken down

$*@@#$#$. Stop sending this crap and terminate your customer in the next 10 minutes, or else and then proceed 10 minutes later to list every IP ever affiliate with the ISP. No wonder the same abuse people aren't eager to help when the RBL comes back and asks for help. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL

Re: williams spamhaus blacklist

anymore. The complete list of Williams issues is at: http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/listings.lasso?isp=wcg As per usual, no amount of collateral damage is deemed unacceptable. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List

New CA Law

planning on using the law to recover damages? -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Verisign Responds

from Verisign due to breach of contract? I think it's highly unlikely. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Worst design decisions?

(eg, what you find on PC's) are 15 Amps, but only 65 degC rated. The IEC-320 C15/C16 (with the notch) are also 15 Amps, but are rated to a pin temperature of 120 degC. I doubt Cisco did it to be a PITA, electrical codes probably required it for some reason. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL

Re: Verisign suggestion

), and for the domain speculators who've been registering for years to sue them for unfair monopolistic practices, or something, since they clearly have an unfair advantage. Heck, you might even be able to get an injunction against them pretty quick. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE

Re: DNS anycast considered harmful (was: .ORG problems this evening)

a backup that does not go to the same site in steady state, but is still very close as well. I strongly suggest the UltraDNS people look at that configuration if they aren't doing it now. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG

Re: .ORG problems this evening

it needs to switch to a backup as well. Redundancy is good. Redundancy at two levels is even better, particularly when they can back each other up. Plus, in this case it costs them nothing, they just have to tweek a config. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys

Re: Cross-country shipping of large network/computer gear?

vendors do as well. Anyone friends with someone in the logistics department at a big hardware vendor care to comment? :) -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp

Re: Tier-1 without their own backbone?

is, as long as the company has it structured so the answers to those three questions are positive. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

too, filtering customers does not eliminate route leaks, it just removes the most obvious and often cause. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

filtering. The IRR, with everyone doing an update for every customer worldwide does not scale, but depeering all the smaller peers and letting a few big guys sort it out does. I don't think that's the result most people pushing filtering want. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

peering links and spoofing would be a thing of the past. -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.tmbg.org pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Lazy Engineers and Viable Excuses

, I don't suggest this configuration is common or useful on its own, but rather it's a simple enough case it can be used for discussion in e-mail.] -- Leo Bicknell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - CCIE 3440 PGP keys at http://www.ufp.org/~bicknell/ Read TMBG List - [EMAIL PROTECTED

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