Call for presentations: APNIC 36, Xi'an

2013-07-12 Thread Philip Smith
Hi everyone, If any of you are starting to plan your late August travel, please think about joining us at the APNIC 36 Conference, being held in Xi'an, China (home of the Terracotta Warriors). The Programme Committee would like your help. We are still on the look out for presentations and

Updated CFP for RIPE 67

2013-07-12 Thread Filiz Yilmaz
Dear colleagues, RIPE PC is now also accepting Workshop proposals for RIPE 67. Please find the updated CFP with pointers to all possible presentation formats below and at: https://ripe67.ripe.net/programme/cfp/ Note that the deadline for submissions is still 4 August 2013. Kind regards

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Warren Bailey
It's not a shock. What is shocking, is the blatant disregard for general privacy. Because it exists on a medium other than something I own, it does not somehow become property of another. If this isn't a big deal, I imagine a search of your home isn't an issue either? The point is, these

Re: gTLDs opened up

2013-07-12 Thread Christian de Larrinaga
hilarious! Now we know that open really means ... closed. C Alex Buie wrote: They apparently have different zones (ie, they run 5 different, separate roots), and you pay a different price depending on how many zones you want your TLD to be active in. (cf

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread tei''
Whos doing the spyiing, anyway?, sounds like a colaboration betwen Microsoft and the NSA. Sounds to me like Microsoft, and the NSA,are doing the spyiing.If some judge declare this actions illegal, a crime, Microsoft will be co-perpetrators. Even if no judge declare this a crime, what

Re: On topic of domains

2013-07-12 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:23 PM, Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com wrote: Domain names can be presented with a trailing dot.A fully qualified domain always contains at least one explicit dot. But not always at the end, which is why there's a problem. RFC1123, in my opinion, contains a remark

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Fred Reimer
The US federal government may have funded some initial research into the Internet, but they certainly didn't [give] it to us in the first place. I know it was probably not the intention, but the phrasing of that statement implies that we are using a government provided communications

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 09:26:32 -, Warren Bailey said: The NSA needs to be spying on OTHER people, we are apparently innocent until proven guilty.. Ymmv Be careful what you wish for - bad things happen when there's an organizational push to find somebody who's guilty of something, when there's

Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Alain Hebert
Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them? -- One of my *new* customer was caught by the local monopole into moving their domain/site/emails/phone/oxygen supply/etc to them. But when the usual grace period stopped

RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Eric Wieling
Suspecting your spouse of cheating is much different than coming home and finding them in bed with someone. -Original Message- From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 9:40 PM To: Rodrick Brown Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Office 365..?

RE: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Jason Faraone
The biggest grievance I have is in regards to carriers with automatic contract renewals. Combined with the fact that these carriers either refused to allow month to month billing or will allow it at double / triple current rates, coordinating disconnection of older services while turning up new

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Alain Hebert aheb...@pubnix.net Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them? [ long saga elided ] And now you know why it's standard operating procedure: *Never* tell the losing

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Grant Ridder
Touché Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2013, at 8:56 AM, Eric Wieling ewiel...@nyigc.com wrote: Suspecting your spouse of cheating is much different than coming home and finding them in bed with someone. -Original Message- From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com]

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread nanog
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote: Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them? Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Hopefully this isn't one of mine, but I've seen this

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:25, na...@namor.ca wrote: On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote: Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them? Never attribute to malice

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Bryan Fields
On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same. Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should be avoided by legitimate businesses at nearly all costs. You can void a contract at any time so

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same. Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should be avoided by legitimate

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Tom Morris
We use Office 365 here at work, but I'd definitely be interested in looking into alternate solutions --- at the very least I am going to be sure to inform our staff that there is to be no expectation of privacy when using your Office365 account. Gross. On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Grant

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote: After a somewhat pleasant call to the monopole informing them that they are planning to divorce them in 30 days, and that it was clearly stated that since they are paying for those additional 30 days that their services wont be cut off... 1- You call to

Weekly Routing Table Report

2013-07-12 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

RE: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Barry Shein
What I find particularly troubling is this image of the govt paying for these surveillances. The price seemed to be from around $325 for an install plus $10 to $750 install and $500/mo. Now, let's not drop right into the easy and trite don't they deserve to be reimbursed right off. Sure, they/we

Re: Google bot contact

2013-07-12 Thread Nick Khamis
If lucky maybe bot google contact shortdudey...@gmail.com On 7/11/13, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone that works with the Google Bot contact me off list? I am seeing some really weird access activity for a site I manage. -Grant

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Tom Morris wrote: We use Office 365 here at work, but I'd definitely be interested in looking into alternate solutions --- at the very least I am going to be sure to inform our staff that there is to be no expectation of privacy when using your Office365 account. Gross.

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Nick Khamis
We are currently working on something right now where all connections are doing over an encrypted vpn. We are bringing SIP, email, search, and cloud to the tunnel. You can contact me off list if you would like to know more. Nick Khamis

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Matt Baldwin
While that would secure the connections from snooping if you're mailboxes are on Office 365 and those mailbox stores do not exits on an encrypted LUN then a service can easily read the Exchange database; anyone with server access can read mail across all mailboxes. In fact, Microsoft supports this

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Matt Baldwin
I should also note that even if the stores are on an encrypted LUN you are still exposed to impersonation and journaling. -matt On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Matt Baldwin baldwinmat...@gmail.comwrote: While that would secure the connections from snooping if you're mailboxes are on Office

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Nick Khamis
I should also note that even if the stores are on an encrypted LUN you are still exposed to impersonation and journaling. -matt I would hate to assume. Please do elaborate. N.

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Baldwin wrote: While that would secure the connections from snooping if you're mailboxes are on Office 365 and those mailbox stores do not exits on an encrypted LUN then a service can easily read the Exchange database; anyone with server

The Cidr Report

2013-07-12 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 12 21:13:26 2013 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2013-07-12 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 04-Jul-13 -to- 11-Jul-13 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS18403 40070 2.3% 78.1 -- FPT-AS-AP The Corporation for Financing Promoting

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Alain Hebert
On 07/12/13 13:54, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same. Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Nick Khamis
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Bruce Pinsky b...@whack.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matt Baldwin wrote: While that would secure the connections from snooping if you're mailboxes are on Office 365 and those mailbox stores do not exits on an encrypted LUN

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Nick Khamis
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW. N.

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread Warren Bailey
That doesn't sound like it would be effective in this instance? Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com Date: 07/12/2013 1:06 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Justin M. Streiner strei...@cluebyfour.org Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Office 365..?

Re: Google bot contact

2013-07-12 Thread Grant Ridder
I received a very helpful and very prompt off list response, thanks! On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: If lucky maybe bot google contact shortdudey...@gmail.com On 7/11/13, Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com wrote: Can someone that works with the Google

Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages

2013-07-12 Thread ryangard
It wouldn't be. When the endpoint in question is compromised, there isn't any amount of tunneling or obscurity between point a and point b that will resolve it. Only thing you can do is change to a solution that you have more control over. Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry