Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on any
device capable of doing it :)
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Warren Bailey
wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
The entire idea of prism is hitting tier 1 providers and mass
communications providers. If they
Well, I think Google has the right idea with providing Internet by floating
balloons. And the way that cell phone tech has been improving, we might all
have 10G in... 10 years or so?
If Google is providing it, it'll be monitored by our government but hey,
we'll have enough bandwidth to hang
On Jul 14, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Mark Seiden m...@seiden.com wrote:
and here i am in the icann-selected hotel for the icann conference, and they
gave us a total of 500MB of metered usage.
Trust me, the 500MB limit (per day, and resettable if you go down to the front
desk and request more) is
You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution
of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised
about bad net access? I would question the wisdom of planning a tech
conference there, but not the facility itself.
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:16 AM, David
On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:12 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution
of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised
about bad net access? I would question the wisdom of planning a tech
conference there,
On Jul 14, 2013 5:36 AM, Bill Woodcock wo...@pch.net wrote:
On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:12 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution
of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised
about bad net access? I
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution
of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised
about bad net access?
Africa is not homogeneous.
I would question the wisdom of
I suspect the problem is the (offsite) hotel that Mark and I are at was not
really prepared for a full house of folks interested in viewing streams,
downloading documents, etc. (despite attempts to inform the hotel of the
impending tsunami). I imagine folks involved in setting up NANOG-related
Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on
any device capable of doing it :)
Those that care did that many moons ago. The rest don't care.
Of course, if you do not have control of the endpoints doing the encryption
(ie, the untrustworthy sucker is in the middle
Seems Kim was right all along... Rumors have it MegaEmail is in the works.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 14, 2013, at 3:45 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu eu...@imacandi.net wrote:
Maybe people will now start turning on their encryption functions on any
device capable of doing it :)
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013
Kim was never right all along. I worked for them/him in Munich in 2000 just
before tuv buyout. I'm actually really surprised journalists haven't googled
his back story.. The real one.
Sent from my Mobile Device.
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From: Rodrick Brown rodrick.br...@gmail.com
On 7/13/2013 10:15 PM, Jima wrote:
On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa
I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA
(city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop. (Really, who
On 7/14/13 7:22 AM, John Levine wrote:
I suspect the problem is the (offsite) hotel that Mark and I are at was not
really prepared for a full house of folks interested in viewing streams,
downloading documents, etc. (despite attempts to inform the hotel of the
impending tsunami). I imagine folks
Don't know about you, but when I log into my Comcast account I see :
*Note:enforcement of the 250GB data consumption threshold is currently
suspended
*
Even then, the 250GB only ever applied for the slower accounts.
Scott
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Grant Ridder
On 14 July 2013 10:11, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
On 7/13/2013 10:15 PM, Jima wrote:
On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa
I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA
(city-involved
my guess is that microsoft was probably more honest than gobble, appeal,
etc. so ms looks as if they gave more to the nsa traitors when, in
fact, they were all likely in the same rotten boat.
randy
I would imagine this cheap rural fiber showed up after the RUS stimulus? A
former employer (GCI, in Anchorage Alaska) received quite a bit of money in the
form of a grant/loan for a rural fiber network (I think they may have received
the largest of all grants). Would be interesting to know how
On 7/14/2013 3:37 PM, Warren Bailey wrote:
I would imagine this cheap rural fiber showed up after the RUS
stimulus? A former employer (GCI, in Anchorage Alaska) received quite
a bit of money in the form of a grant/loan for a rural fiber network
(I think they may have received the largest of
On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 09:36 -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
in
fact, they were all likely in the same rotten boat.
Why I love open source. Look at my mail, track my web site visits. None
of this should come as any surprise, especially to the members of this
list. Now for the guy down the
On 7/14/2013 3:37 PM, Richard Golodner wrote:
On Sun, 2013-07-14 at 09:36 -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
in
fact, they were all likely in the same rotten boat.
Why I love open source. Look at my mail, track my web site visits. None
of this should come as any surprise, especially to the
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote:
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply not realistic for many companies and essentially all people (to a
first approximation).
--
TTFN,
patrick
To add to that, I think the interesting point was brought up earlier anyways --
this doesn't stop midstream intercepts from catching traffic in transmission.
You can have a secure endpoint, but if the email has to traverse, it's open to
being sniffed.
--Original Message--
From: Patrick
I think it is (could be) (should be) realistic for many/most businesses.
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall security, web caching, optional content
I could support any of these services myself, and have guys that work me
that can as well, but none of these are my core business, and my investors
REALLY prefer me focusing on my core business, I suspect most of us have
shareholders, investors, owners that feel the same way. I struggled with
Jim, thanks, certainly understand business priorities.
But Patrick's statement was that a business having its own server was
simply not realistic, which I took to be along the dimensions of
economically unrealistic or technically unrealistic.
In a world of kids growing up with Raspberry
On 2013-07-13 20:15, Jima wrote:
I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA
(city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop. (Really, who
has 100/100 at home?)
Thanks to everyone who responded -- my list of places I'm willing to
live is rounding out. ;-)
Yep, that would be us. :) Lots of 100/100 and 1g/1g home Ethernet connections
around the Seattle area. :)
Joe was a great guy, we miss him still, one of the nicest guys I knew.
John van Oppen
Spectrum Networks
Direct: 206-973-8302
Main: 206-973-8300
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Aaron Wendel wrote:
We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under a
court order. The PRISM program is voluntary. These companies gave the NSA
access to their systems voluntarily. To me there is a big difference. I
would be interested to
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
It is our Electric provider utility, and much of the build out
was tied to Smart Grid power meter integration. I'm not familiar with
the politics, but there were some battles over funding and
justification.
Power Utility
On 7/14/2013 9:08 PM, Jima wrote:
XMission does offer 1000/1000, as well; I seem to recall the price is
something like $300/mo. For us, the problem was more finding remote
sites that can push data rates anywhere near one's own limit (as it's
enough of a problem at 100mbit), making the price
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