Re: Announcing Peering-LAN prefixes to customers

On 3/Jan/19 22:08, Andy Davidson wrote: > There are no stupid questions! It is a good idea to not BGP announce and > perhaps also to drop traffic toward peering LAN prefixes at customer-borders, > this was already well discussed in the thread. But there wasn’t a discussion > on how we got

Re: Service Provider NetFlow Collectors

We were on Arbor for quite some time, but are now moving to Kentik. Mark. On 3/Jan/19 05:37, Nick Peelman wrote: > We rolled a large(ish) ElasticSearch cluster last year out of SuperMicro > Microclouds (3U, 8 nodes per chassis, Xeon-D based processors), mostly 32GB > of RAM per node, and M.2

Re: plaintext email?

On January 16, 2019 at 00:04 jo...@iecc.com (John Levine) wrote: > > > Sudden plot-twist! > > > > > > A small elite group of NANOG participants have been using stenographic > > > forms of > > > encryption in the messages all along!� > > > >Did you mean steganographic? > > No,

Re: plaintext email?

You're way too close to the truth. The steganographic code is based on typos. (bit rate is rather shit) Now you must be Elluminated On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:06 PM John Levine wrote: > > > Sudden plot-twist! > > > > > > A small elite group of NANOG participants have been using

Re: plaintext email?

> > Sudden plot-twist! > > > > A small elite group of NANOG participants have been using stenographic > > forms of > > encryption in the messages all along!� > >Did you mean steganographic? No, stenographic, like, you know, double rot13. R's, John

Re: plaintext email?

On January 15, 2019 at 13:58 clinton.mie...@gmail.com (cosmo) wrote: > Sudden plot-twist! > > A small elite group of NANOG participants have been using stenographic forms > of > encryption in the messages all along!  Did you mean steganographic? I only ask because someone might learn

RE: the e-mail of the future is the e-mail oft the past, was Enough port 26 talk...

On Tuesday, 15 January, 2019 12:10, James Downs wrote: >On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 06:46:07PM +0100, Tei wrote: >> Is very hard to replace a open protocol, wrapping may work if the >> protocol is mostly abandoned (IRC) but thats not the case for >> email. > IRC is far from abandonded. There

Re: Your opinion on network analysis in the presence of uncertain events

I know of none that take probabilities as inputs. Traditional network simulators, such as GNS3, let you model various failure modes, but probability seems squishy enough that I don’t see how it can be accurate, and thus helpful. It’s like that Dilbert cartoon where the pointy haired boss asks

Re: plaintext email?

On 1/15/19 5:16 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:07 PM Aled Morris via NANOG > wrote: Please don't post empty messages to the NANOG list. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

Re: plaintext email?

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 5:07 PM Aled Morris via NANOG wrote: > You can hide your secret message by writing: > > dash dash space return > > Followed by your message. > > It’ll be hidden from all but the Internet illuminati > > -- is that true? > Aled > > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 22:00, cosmo

Re: plaintext email?

You can hide your secret message by writing: dash dash space return Followed by your message. It’ll be hidden from all but the Internet illuminati Aled On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 22:00, cosmo wrote: > Sudden plot-twist! > > A small elite group of NANOG participants have been using

dyn internet intelligence

can someone from dyn reach out to me offline? https://dyn.com/dyn-internet-intelligence/ i have been trying to subscribe and pay for this service and i am getting sales people ping me and not follow up with price information (which is weird...) thank you

Re: plaintext email?

Sudden plot-twist! A small elite group of NANOG participants have been using stenographic forms of encryption in the messages all along! On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 1:06 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > On 1/15/19 12:24 AM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > I'd like to go on record as saying that I PREFER

Re: plaintext email?

On 1/15/19 12:24 AM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > I'd like to go on record as saying that I PREFER top-posting. It's like having an @aol.com address. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

Re: plaintext email?

Warning —top posting also with interspersed comments.  <— that’s a thumbs up > On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:36 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: > > > Re: Top Posting > > To me it depends on whether there's any chance the reader won't know > what precisely you're responding to in which case in-line is

Re: Top Posting Was: Re: plaintext email?

On Jan 15, 2019, at 1:06 PM, John Levine wrote: > > By the way, have you changed and memorized all your passwords for this > month yet? No, I do not follow a predictable rhythm in changing passwords. Some change frequently, some change infrequently. I only remember my login password, my

Re: Your opinion on network analysis in the presence of uncertain events

> I took the survey. It’s short and sweet — well done! Thanks a lot, Mel! Highly appreciated! > I do have a question. You ask "Are there any good?” Any good what? I just meant whether existing network analysis tools were any good (or good enough) at reasoning about probabilistic behaviors

Re: the e-mail of the future is the e-mail oft the past, was Enough port 26 talk...

On 01/15/2019 10:46 AM, Tei wrote: I think the newsgroups died because was expensive for ISPs and filled with nasty stuff (warez and porn). I believe newsgroups are still very much so alive and quite active. I see 15k ~ 20k messages / 50 ~ 75 MB of /text/ newsgroups daily on my server. My

Re: plaintext email?

On 01/15/2019 11:37 AM, b...@theworld.com wrote: P.S. No, you already read the quoted text, that's how it got to be quoted text. Are you making reference to having read the quoted text in a different email? An email that someone might not have received, much less read yet? -- Grant. . .

Re: Your opinion on network analysis in the presence of uncertain events

I took the survey. It’s short and sweet — well done! I do have a question. You ask "Are there any good?” Any good what? -mel On Jan 15, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Vanbever Laurent mailto:lvanbe...@ethz.ch>> wrote: Hi NANOG, Networks evolve in uncertain environments. Links and devices randomly fail;

Re: plaintext email?

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 02:23:48PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > Without reading further... which of your recent postings is this a reply to? > Obviously you already know, because you said you don't need to see the > text to know the context... Gentlemen, this is getting petty. Perhaps

Re: plaintext email?

On Tue, 2019-01-15 at 00:24 -0500, b...@theworld.com wrote: > I'd like to go on record as saying that I PREFER top-posting. > > Why dig through what you've already read to see the new comments? Because in long discussion threads, you lose the context to exactly what a particular person is

Re: plaintext email?

Without reading further... which of your recent postings is this a reply to? Obviously you already know, because you said you don't need to see the text to know the context... Nope, it wasn't the one about how things became quoted text. On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 13:36:38 -0500,

Re: the e-mail of the future is the e-mail oft the past, was Enough port 26 talk...

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 06:46:07PM +0100, Tei wrote: > Is very hard to replace a open protocol, wrapping may work if the > protocol is mostly abandoned (IRC) but thats not the case for email. IRC is far from abandonded. There are lots of very active networks, 2 of which I use continously. But,

Your opinion on network analysis in the presence of uncertain events

Hi NANOG, Networks evolve in uncertain environments. Links and devices randomly fail; external BGP announcements unpredictably appear/disappear leading to unforeseen traffic shifts; traffic demands vary, etc. Reasoning about network behaviors under such uncertainties is hard and yet essential

Re: plaintext email?

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:37 AM wrote: > To me it depends on whether there's any chance the reader won't know > what precisely you're responding to in which case in-line is > warranted. In a one-to-one private email you can reasonably assume that either the recipient is familiar with the chain

Re: plaintext email?

On January 15, 2019 at 00:40 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu (valdis.kletni...@vt.edu) wrote: > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. P.S. No, you already read the quoted text, that's how it got to be quoted text. -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die|

Re: plaintext email?

Re: Top Posting To me it depends on whether there's any chance the reader won't know what precisely you're responding to in which case in-line is warranted. I don't have any quoted text in this msg (is that top posting?), is anyone lost? THE REAL REASON for my responding at all is because

Re: the e-mail of the future is the e-mail oft the past, was Enough port 26 talk...

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 09:21, Bjørn Mork wrote: .. > open protocols, just shut off SMTP completely. They'll > probably "invent" something much better as an excuse... And the masses > will love them for that, because it finally removed the spam "problem". > > And everyone has a gmail account

Re: ASNs decimation in ZW this morning

sorry top posting, yup whatsup doesnt work in harare. phone circuits land ok though and checked ok col Sent from my iPod > On 15 Jan 2019, at 15:42, C. A. Fillekes wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:34 AM C. A. Fillekes wrote: >> >> So @meileaben on twitter this morning notes: >>

Re: ASNs decimation in ZW this morning

On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:34 AM C. A. Fillekes wrote: > > So @meileaben on twitter this morning notes: > > Many #*Zimbabwe* Internet > routes withdrawn around 9:30 UTC amidst civil unrest in the country. > near-realtime on #*RIPEstat* >

ASNs decimation in ZW this morning

So @meileaben on twitter this morning notes: Many #*Zimbabwe* Internet routes withdrawn around 9:30 UTC amidst civil unrest in the country. near-realtime on #*RIPEstat* here: https://stat.ripe.net/ZW

Re: Top-quoting Was: (Netflix/GlobalConnect a/s) Scheduled Open Connect Appliance upgrade is starting

+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2019, at 10:37 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > >> On 1/14/19 7:14 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote: >> Please experience the wonders of the top-quote. See your local psychedelic >> distributor if you are somehow not "experiencing" anything ... > > I experience a

Re: Top Posting Was: Re: plaintext email?

On 1/15/19 8:03 AM, Tom Beecher wrote: > No disrespect intended to anyone at all, but the pissing and moaning about > it is a massive waste of time and energy. But, but, but...most water-cooler conversation is about sports, the opposite sex, and pissing and moaning about what you don't like.

Re: Top Posting Was: Re: plaintext email?

> > Why must there be a hard rule about top posting? It is my belief that whether to 'top post' or 'bottom post' may largely depend on the characteristics of the medium. In USENET, bottom posting was preferred because messages often arrived out of order, and occasionally did not arrive at all,

Re: the e-mail of the future is the e-mail oft the past, was Enough port 26 talk...

On 1/15/19 12:19 AM, Bjørn Mork wrote: > And everyone has a gmail account anyway, so why bother with outside > email? Two words: "search warrants." I'm a US citizen, and I do NOT like the idea of power-hungry people being able to paw through my mail. Having my own mail server, residing in my

Re: plaintext email?

On 1/14/19 9:40 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > I'm not away of any languages or writing systems that work from > bottom to top, so that's pretty much everybody. Typography for at least one pictograph-based language allows for, um, interesting stunts one can pull to spice up gray matter.

Re: plaintext email?

Email for personal use is turning rare. And people need to use *bold* in text more than not. So most clients are configured to send html by default, and people have no reasons to change that. I think LISTSERV software used to require plain text to send commands like subscribe, but I think they

Re: plaintext email?

On 01/14/2019 10:24 PM, b...@theworld.com wrote: I'd like to go on record as saying that I PREFER top-posting. To each his / her own preference. Why dig through what you've already read to see the new comments? So that the comments are in context (item followed by comment about item) of

Top Posting Was: Re: plaintext email?

Why must there be a hard rule about top posting? If the replied to message(s) comprise a long logical sequence, the OCD among us experience cognitive dissonance if the order is “un-natural”. Thus bottom posting continues the “natural” sequence and makes life easier for many of us who otherwise

Re: the e-mail of the future is the e-mail oft the past, was Enough port 26 talk...

Miles Fidelman writes: > Ever since the net went commercial, we've been seeing more and more > walled gardens - driven by folks with an economic advantage to > segmenting & capturing audiences.  Whenever someone talks about how > great some new technology is, I'm always reminded to "follow the >