Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-30 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
> Unclear wether it’s over a separately provisioned bandwidth channel, or > wether it shares the aggregate capacity of the HFC. In the Comcast network it uses separately-provisioned bandwidth in the access network. - Jason

RE: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-23 Thread Steven Shalita via NANOG
the prem device. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jay Hennigan Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:49 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cable Company Hotspots On 11/22/20 11:50, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Sad that in some cases the extra WiFi usage results in hig

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-23 Thread Thomas Scott
, November 23, 2020 2:55 PM > *To:* Lady Benjamin PD Cannon > *Cc:* Rod Beck ; NANOG Operators' Group < > nanog@nanog.org> > *Subject:* Re: Cable Company Hotspots > > On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:42, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote: > > > > Rod, that’s exactly ho

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-23 Thread Rod Beck
. From: Rob Seastrom Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 2:55 PM To: Lady Benjamin PD Cannon Cc: Rod Beck ; NANOG Operators' Group Subject: Re: Cable Company Hotspots On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:42, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote: > > Rod, that’s exactly how they are delivering it. Unclear wethe

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-23 Thread Rob Seastrom
On Nov 22, 2020, at 12:42, Lady Benjamin PD Cannon wrote: > > Rod, that’s exactly how they are delivering it. Unclear wether it’s over a > separately provisioned bandwidth channel, or wether it shares the aggregate > capacity of the HFC. It shares the aggregate bandwidth of the HFC but not

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-23 Thread Rod Beck
. From: NANOG on behalf of Jay Hennigan Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:48 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cable Company Hotspots On 11/22/20 11:50, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Sad that in some cases the extra WiFi usage results in higher electric bi

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-22 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, J. Hellenthal said: > Sad that in some cases the extra WiFi usage results in higher electric bills > for the consumer and cannot be opted out of. That's the worst argument against this. Of course you can opt out; don't use the cable company's box. And adding an extra

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-22 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/22/20 11:50, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: Sad that in some cases the extra WiFi usage results in higher electric bills for the consumer and cannot be opted out of. Power consumption is going to be miniscule, especially if the consumer opts to use the cable company's built-in

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-22 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Sad that in some cases the extra WiFi usage results in higher electric bills for the consumer and cannot be opted out of. -- J. Hellenthal The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:49,

RE: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-22 Thread kwoody
> How do the cable companies generally deliver this service? A friend insists it > piggybacks off the WIFI radios of existing cable company subscribers. In other > words, the cable company WIFI router in a flat is providing both a private link > for the flat's subscriber, but also a public hotspot

RE: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-22 Thread Steven Shalita via NANOG
Of *Rod Beck *Sent:* Friday, November 20, 2020 3:27 PM *To:* nanog@nanog.org *Subject:* Cable Company Hotspots Hey Gang, How do the cable companies generally deliver this service? A friend insists it piggybacks off the WIFI radios of existing cable company subscribers. In other words, the cable

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-22 Thread Lady Benjamin PD Cannon
Rod, that’s exactly how they are delivering it. Unclear wether it’s over a separately provisioned bandwidth channel, or wether it shares the aggregate capacity of the HFC. I tend to agree, as the only hotspot service, customer CPE is generally inadequate. However it can be a nice supplement,

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-21 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Rod Beck" > Hey Gang, > > How do the cable companies generally deliver this service? A friend insists it > piggybacks off the WIFI radios of existing cable company subscribers. In other > words, the cable company WIFI router in a flat is providing both a

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-20 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 11/20/20 15:26, Rod Beck wrote: Hey Gang, How do the cable companies generally deliver this service? A friend insists it piggybacks off the WIFI radios of existing cable company subscribers. In other words, the cable company WIFI router in a flat is providing both a private link for the

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-20 Thread Harry McGregor
Hi, Cable Cos do this in several ways. Enabled hot spot on the cable provider cpe with separate ssid, sometimes the same channel sometimes dedicated radio and channel (I prefer the same channel as many areas have way too much noise). This hotspot service is using it's own docsis channels and

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-20 Thread Luke Guillory
I believe they use a separate GRE tunnel back into their network to keep it separate from the local customers traffic. They also do this for other ISPs that they have agreements with, Coz customers can use the Comcast hotspots vice versa. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:38 PM,

Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-20 Thread Brandon Svec
Comcast does exactly that in the US. Some people turn it off though. I can't recall if just the guest hotspot can be disabled on it's own or you have to just turn off wireless completely and use your own kit. Probably depends on the provided gear. Slightly off topic, but the cellular providers

Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-20 Thread Rod Beck
Hey Gang, How do the cable companies generally deliver this service? A friend insists it piggybacks off the WIFI radios of existing cable company subscribers. In other words, the cable company WIFI router in a flat is providing both a private link for the flat's subscriber, but also a public