: Thursday, 10 June 2021 8:24 am
To: 'Colton Conor'
Cc: 'NANOG'
Subject: RE: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
Well I can’t talk to what discounts are available, you would need to get that
direct off Nokia. The 7210 SAS-S 24F4SFP+ is pretty affordable even with the
stand alone MPLS licence but it makes
of like Boeing or
Airbus, the list price is X but the airlines never pay list.
From: Colton Conor
Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2021 8:03 am
To: Tony Wicks
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
Tony,
I reached out to a couple of people, and they mentioned that there is nothing
8x1 4x10G option. These are
> very affordable and reliable MPLS transport devices. You’ll need to contact
> your local Nokia rep for pricing.
>
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
> *From:* Colton Conor
> *Sent:* Thursday, 27 May 2021 5:03 am
> *To:* Tony Wicks
> *Cc:* NANOG
&
On 6/1/21 16:26, Colton Conor wrote:
What replacement options are you looking at for the ASR920?
I'm not at liberty to say yet as it's for kit that's still in alpha
testing, but what I can say is it's from Juniper.
Mark.
Mark,
What replacement options are you looking at for the ASR920?
On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 7:52 AM Mark Tinka wrote:
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>
> On 6/1/21 14:37, Fabrizio Fiore Donati wrote:
>
> > you are right :)
> >
> > cisco ASR920 is a very good platform here
>
> We have started hitting its limits on IPv6 TCAM,
On 6/1/21 14:37, Fabrizio Fiore Donati wrote:
you are right :)
cisco ASR920 is a very good platform here
We have started hitting its limits on IPv6 TCAM, though. And this is
without a full feed for either IPv4 or IPv6.
We are having to look for a replacement, even though it's
you are right :)
cisco ASR920 is a very good platform here
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Looks like a great box, but we can't use Huawei in the USA.
On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 6:42 AM Fabrizio Fiore Donati <
fabrizio.fioredon...@2bite.net> wrote:
> You can try also huawei ne8000-M1A they are full MPLS/MEF and have also a
> 16x10GE version.
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>
> Il giorno mar 1 giu 2021 alle ore 06:34
You can try also huawei ne8000-M1A they are full MPLS/MEF and have also a
16x10GE version.
Il giorno mar 1 giu 2021 alle ore 06:34 Mark Tinka ha
scritto:
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>
> On 5/31/21 19:44, Adam Thompson wrote:
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> But for 4x10G the MX104 is a very nice box - if you can afford it.
>
>
> If you don't need
On 5/31/21 19:44, Adam Thompson wrote:
But for 4x10G the MX104 is a very nice box - if you can afford it.
If you don't need a full BGP table, sure :-).
Mark.
afford it.
>
> Lastly, have you seen https://www.mef.net/certify/technology-registry/ ?
>
> -Adam
>
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nt: May 31, 2021 15:30
To: Adam Thompson
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
Adam.
When you say "Beware using any EXOS-based product (anything that starts with
"X") unless you're already familiar with EXOS!" Are you saying stay away from
this line completely, or
ve
> Winnipeg, MB, R3T 6A8
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> athomp...@merlin.mb.ca
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> *From:* NANOG on behalf
> of Colton Conor
> *Sent:* May 26, 2021 11:39
> *To:* NANOG
> *Subject:* MPLS/MEF
Patrick,
Yes, I would say that was quite some time ago. From my most recent quotes
from Ciena, they have version 6, version 8, and version 10 products now. I
wonder if they have improved (I would hope) over the years.
On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 10:12 PM Patrick Cole wrote:
> Colton,
>
> This was
___
From: NANOG on behalf of
Colton Conor
Sent: May 26, 2021 11:39
To: NANOG
Subject: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
For MPLS and MEF switches, I know Juniper, Cisco, and Nokia are commonly talked
about on this list. However, I was wondering if anyone has evaluated other
brands? We are not interested i
On 5/29/21 04:17, Patrick Cole wrote:
We ran a medium sized mpls network using ciena 3900 and 5000 series
boxes on our microwave network.
Nothing but problems, the mpls code was just not mature enough and our
radio network had the boxes falling apart at the seams as storms
rolled
On 5/29/21 00:46, Colton Conor wrote:
Yes, I was surprised as you that they have these routing features. I
was also surprised they had multiple boxes that compete with
aggregation devices like the ACX5048. The question is how good is
Ciena's MPLS, switching, and routing stack compared to
Colton,
This was 6+ years ago, SAOS 6.14, so I don't know it might be better now.
We changed to Cisco ASR920 and it was a night and day difference - we now have
90ish ASR920s in production but are migrating toward the NCS540X.
Patrick
Sat, May 29, 2021 at 10:13:13AM -0500, Colton Conor wrote:
Patrick,
How long ago was this, and what code were they running?
What do you recommend for aggregation then?
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 9:17 PM Patrick Cole wrote:
>
> We ran a medium sized mpls network using ciena 3900 and 5000 series boxes
> on our microwave network.
>
> Nothing but problems,
We ran a medium sized mpls network using ciena 3900 and 5000 series boxes
on our microwave network.
Nothing but problems, the mpls code was just not mature enough and our
radio network had the boxes falling apart at the seams as storms rolled
through. At that time they didn't support FRR
Ciena was chosen by AT to deliver much of their enterprise fiber in MTOBs and
such. Unsure if they run MPLS but it looks like it from the physical topology.
Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC
CEO
l...@6by7.net
"The only fully end-to-end encrypted
Yes, I was surprised as you that they have these routing features. I was
also surprised they had multiple boxes that compete with
aggregation devices like the ACX5048. The question is how good is Ciena's
MPLS, switching, and routing stack compared to the established players of
Juniper, Cisco, and
Yeah, good point Shawn, I’ve had guys ask “where is the mac table?” in the
accedian, ha. Yeah it’s very point to point’ish… you tell a port what vlan to
expect, and then what port to send that out. Very rigid like that.
Yeah Ryan, and as I understand it, the NCS540 has the sweet XR OS too
: Friday, May 28, 2021 11:50 AM
To: aar...@gvtc.com
Cc: 'NANOG'
Subject: RE: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
The Accedian boxes are nice, as long as you remember they're not switches or
routers. We've used them for specific use cases, but have to remember that
there's things you just can't do on them
: aar...@gvtc.com
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 1:31pm
To: "'Colton Conor'" , "'NANOG'"
Subject: RE: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
Wow, ciena has the means to implement SR and MPLS services? I mean they run
the underlying LS IGP to signal those SID’s ?? I didn’t know that.
Wow, ciena has the means to implement SR and MPLS services? I mean they run
the underlying LS IGP to signal those SID’s ?? I didn’t know that. I may look
at them in the future then. I thought Ciena just did some sort of static
mpls-tp or something…
We use Accedian as NID’s with SkyLight
I am going to have to reach out to Nokia and talk to them about their
products then. In the past when I have talked to Nokia their products have
a low upfront cost, but then they license you to death and were worse than
Cisco from what I remember.
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 8:27 AM Thomas Scott
I've been deploying the 7210 SAS S and Sx for a while now as MPLS PEs.
I haven't had any major issues. Mixes well with our existing Juniper
infrastructure.
--ryan
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 6:26 AM Thomas Scott wrote:
>
> Second vote for the Nokia 7200 line, their price points are hard to beat. The
Second vote for the Nokia 7200 line, their price points are hard to beat.
The 7250 was originally designed (per the Nokia reps I've talked to) to be
a data center switch, but I've seen more than one MSO deploy them in the
field to great effect. They also make fantastic satellite boxes for their
On 5/26/21 12:39 PM, Colton Conor wrote:
Ciena seems to have multiple options available with Segment Routing,
MPLS, and streaming telemetry support. I am probably most interested
in what Ciena has to offer. Has anyone deployed the 3000 or 5000
product line of Ciena? How does it compare to
: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
Tony,
Thanks, I wasn't aware of this model. This would compete with the ACX710 based
on the specs (actually have a bit more ports). I guess I will have to reach
out, but price wise where does this box come in?
What is Nokia's low cost NID that has at least
gt; *To:* NANOG
> *Subject:* MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
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> We have used Juniper's ACX line primarily, but there is a big gap in their
> product line. The ACX2200 has only two 10G ports. The next jump up from
> there is the ACX710 with 24 10G ports. They have nothin
The Nokia 7250-ixr-e covers exactly the port density and price range you are
looking for. 24x1/10, 8x10/25 and 2x100G with 300G total capacity.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Colton Conor
Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2021 4:39 am
To: NANOG
Subject: MPLS/MEF Switches and NIDs
We have used
For MPLS and MEF switches, I know Juniper, Cisco, and Nokia are commonly
talked about on this list. However, I was wondering if anyone has
evaluated other brands? We are not interested in looking at chinese based
vendors, so ZTE and Huawei are not an option. Anyone else worth looking
into?
We
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