Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-07 Thread Jeff Harper
- Original Message - From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com I've always looked at the nanog list representing issues up to layer 4 of the OSI model; mostly layer 3/4. Maybe a new mailing list could be made called the North American Network Applications Group (nanag)...there might

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/5/10 10:05 PM, Larry Brower wrote: James Smith wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. ~SmithwaySecurity Sent from my iPhone We need Alert and ! in the subject? seriously? Sorry, but I don't see a

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Damien Saucez
Hello, Is www.lisp4.facebook.com working for places where www.facebook.com is down? Damien Saucez On 06 Oct 2010, at 06:47, Michiel Muhlenbaumer wrote: Hi James, On 6 okt 2010, at 06:44, James Smith wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down.

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Thomas Habets
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Mark Hofman wrote: Guess productivity will go up ;-) You'd think so, but my experience is that when Facebook goes down the whole company will leave their desks and go to the networking people to get them to fix the Facebook. And they won't leave until Facebook is back.

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread christian koch
+1 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this. On 10/5/10 9:46 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Same here in SF Bay Area On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, James Smith

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Bret Clark
I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service provider is having problems and people questioning it since that can affect many of us who depend on backbone connections, but sites like facebook and twitter being down should not be posted here but on the

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Greg Whynott
Especially for Facebook alerts.. You are propagating a false perception that everyone cares. -g On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:20 PM, christian koch wrote: +1 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Zaid Ali z...@zaidali.com wrote: I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this.

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Bret Clark wrote: I have to agree on this as well. I can understand when a service provider is you've forgotten that facebook (and indeed twitter too) are service providers that provide business-critical services. just because you don't want to play facebook games

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Matt Baldwin
I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g. Zygna. So, net net a FB outage could be seen as a positive thing in the course of a work day. -matt On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:31 PM, david raistrick

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Greg Whynott
just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn't make a facebook outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight outage. IMO which may be way off base, when akamai goes off the air, people lose potential sales/revenue. when facebook goes off the

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Jeff Harper
From: Mark m...@edgewire.sg It's back up. There goes that short burst of productivity. On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Mark Hofman wrote: Ditto In AU and from other reports US. Guess productivity will go up ;-) The irony is that the short burst of productivity was spent troubleshooting

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Greg Whynott wrote: just because you don't want to play facebook games doesn't make a facebook outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight outage. IMO which may be way off base, when akamai goes off the air, people lose potential

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matt Baldwin wrote: I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g. Perhaps, then, we should instead be discussing the business benefits of blocking facebook so companies can

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Andrew Kirch
On 10/6/2010 4:33 PM, david raistrick wrote: so the majority defines operational now, huh? wow. nice to know that network service providers outnumber other companies these days... (of course, those service providers also make their money from facebook consumers) No, the majority does

RE: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Adcock, Matt [HISNA]
: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert! On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Matt Baldwin wrote: I would imagine more businesses benefit from a FB outage in terms of a tick up in productivity versus businesses harmed by a FB outage, e.g. Perhaps, then, we should instead be discussing the business

RE: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Guerra, Ruben
:39 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert! On 10/6/2010 4:33 PM, david raistrick wrote: so the majority defines operational now, huh? wow. nice to know that network service providers outnumber other companies these days... (of course, those service providers also make

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote: No, the majority does not define what operational means. Facebook is not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power not a mission critical internet resource -to you- -- david raistrick

RE: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
-Original Message- From: Guerra, Ruben [mailto:ruben.gue...@arrisi.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:47 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Facebook down!! Alert! Passes Andrew the shotgun... Please kill all FB threads with it. :) The only thing I noticed being down last

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread david raistrick
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote: No, the majority does not define what operational means. Facebook is not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power not a mission critical internet resource -to you- to be clear, I

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Andrew Kirch
On 10/6/2010 5:05 PM, david raistrick wrote: to be clear, I could give a damn about if we talk about this on nanog or not. (and I agree that outages is the right place to announce outages, and outage-discuss to discuss them). my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 16:39:03 EDT, Andrew Kirch said: No, the majority does not define what operational means. Facebook is not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power loss at a peering point, DoS attack. Yes, but anytime something spikes the number of calls at my

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Dan White
On 06/10/10 17:05 -0400, david raistrick wrote: my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content provider, and (much like, say, google) provide both content AND service. I have dependancies on facebook's (as do many many others who perhaps dont yet hire folks who even know

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Tammy A. Wisdom
- Original Message - From: david raistrick dr...@icantclick.org To: Andrew Kirch trel...@trelane.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, October 6, 2010 3:05:10 PM Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert! On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote: On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Quinn Kuzmich
Giant Panty Raid. Now I know what I'll be calling my weekend/overnight shifts. Who says being a Network Engineer can't be fun? Q On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom tammy-li...@wiztech.bizwrote: This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread Bret Clark
On 10/06/2010 06:08 PM, Tammy A. Wisdom wrote: This thread proves too me yet again that nanog is the internets equivalent of a giant panty raid. This isn't the outages list I am rather annoyed that we must discuss junk social media sites such as facebook. Just because you are panicing does

RE: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-06 Thread John van Oppen
Message- From: Dan White [mailto:dwh...@olp.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 2:24 PM To: david raistrick Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Facebook down!! Alert! On 06/10/10 17:05 -0400, david raistrick wrote: my point is that facebook has moved beyond being a pure content provider, and (much

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Mike Lyon
Same here in SF Bay Area On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.comwrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. ~SmithwaySecurity Sent from my iPhone

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Quinn Kuzmich
Down here in Denver CO On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:44 PM, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.comwrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. ~SmithwaySecurity Sent from my iPhone

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Michiel Muhlenbaumer
Hi James, On 6 okt 2010, at 06:44, James Smith wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. No reason to panic over here (.nl) --- Michiel Muhlenbaumer Atrato IP Networks

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Patrick Muldoon
On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:44 AM, James Smith wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/facebook.com looks like it isn't just you .. Down from here as well. Looks like a productive night of

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Mark Hofman
Ditto In AU and from other reports US. Guess productivity will go up ;-) On 06/10/2010, at 15:46, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.com wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. ~SmithwaySecurity Sent from my

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Joly MacFie
Down , down, down in NYC. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Same here in SF Bay Area On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.com wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down.

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Mikhail Strizhov
Works fine here, Northern Colorado. -- Sincerely, Mikhail Strizhov mailto:striz...@cs.colostate.edu On 10/05/2010 10:47 PM, Patrick Muldoon wrote: On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:44 AM, James Smith wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Zaid Ali
I think the Outages mailing list is more appropriate for this. On 10/5/10 9:46 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Same here in SF Bay Area On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:44 PM, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.comwrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread James Smith
Seems to be working just fine here in Toronto. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Mark Hofman mhof...@shearwater.com.auwrote: Ditto In AU and from other reports US. Guess productivity will go up ;-) On 06/10/2010, at 15:46, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.com wrote: At 1:20am here in

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Mark
It's back up. There goes that short burst of productivity. On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Mark Hofman wrote: Ditto In AU and from other reports US. Guess productivity will go up ;-) On 06/10/2010, at 15:46, James Smith ja...@smithwaysecurity.com wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Larry Brower
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 James Smith wrote: At 1:20am here in Canada, NB our networks are showing that facebook is down. Please confirm in the USA. ~SmithwaySecurity Sent from my iPhone We need Alert and ! in the subject? seriously? Sorry, but I don't see a

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Matthew Dodd
Still up here in Massachusetts over v4 and v6. Since 11:45am (that is PST, I believe) there is still an ongoing issue with real-time updates according to the Live Status page. http://developers.facebook.com/live_status Visiting that page just now, the latest API response time graphs are

Re: Facebook down!! Alert!

2010-10-05 Thread Joly MacFie
Yeah it's back. On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Mikhail Strizhov striz...@cs.colostate.edu wrote: Works fine here, Northern Colorado. -- Sincerely, Mikhail Strizhov mailto:striz...@cs.colostate.edu On 10/05/2010 10:47 PM, Patrick Muldoon wrote: On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:44 AM, James