Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-05-01 Thread Masataka Ohta
William Herrin wrote: Countries whose law derives from English Common law have a concept of adverse possession. Details vary but mainly if you can hold the land for 20 years against the owner's wishes then it's your land. Conceptually it applies to nations just as surely as individuals. Such

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread scott via NANOG
On 4/30/2022 1:31 PM, William Herrin wrote: Strictly speaking, the U.S. government didn't overthrow Hawaii. U.S. expats acting on their own (with some funny business that looked like bribery of U.S. military in the area) overthrew Kamehameha's descendant. That would be the Committee of

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 4:09 PM scott via NANOG wrote: > On 4/30/2022 12:19 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > >> This reads a lot like dsl wars between ilecs and clecs in the late 90s and > >> early 2ks. > > > > compounded by a 100+ year old military occupation > The main question > is 'was it a nation

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread Randy Bush
> See official apology of the United State to Hawaii > https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-107/pdf/STATUTE-107-Pg1510.pdf > which includes these words: > "apologizes to Native Hawaiians on behalf of the people of the United > States for the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17,

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread Donald Eastlake
See official apology of the United State to Hawaii https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-107/pdf/STATUTE-107-Pg1510.pdf which includes these words: "apologizes to Native Hawaiians on behalf of the people of the United States for the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17, 1893 with

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread scott via NANOG
On 4/30/2022 12:19 PM, Randy Bush wrote: This reads a lot like dsl wars between ilecs and clecs in the late 90s and early 2ks. compounded by a 100+ year old military occupation --- Hee is definitely acting in an old school

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread Randy Bush
> This reads a lot like dsl wars between ilecs and clecs in the late 90s and > early 2ks. compounded by a 100+ year old military occupation

Re: how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-30 Thread Christopher Morrow
This reads a lot like dsl wars between ilecs and clecs in the late 90s and early 2ks. Great times? Or Greatest times? On Fri, Apr 29, 2022, 15:44 scott via NANOG wrote: > > > I thought I'd put a smile on your faces for Friday. This is how > networking happens in Hawaii...

how networking happens in Hawaii

2022-04-29 Thread scott via NANOG
I thought I'd put a smile on your faces for Friday. This is how networking happens in Hawaii... https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/04/thousands-of-hawaiians-could-lose-phone-and-internet-service-amid-bankruptcy-dispute