.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
Begin forwarded message:
From: Mark Kosters ma...@arin.net
Date: June 11, 2010 3:17:49 PM EDT
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Upcoming Improvements to ARIN's Directory Service
Hi
ARIN is making significant improvements to our systems
john,
today, a research batch script running periodic bulk whois work has a
line something like
ncftpget ftp://user:p...@ftp.arin.net/arin_db.txt.gz
well, it can actually be simpler.
for the web 9.3 impaired of us, could you describe the simple batch
script line under the new
!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
of such misuse, or change
the policies to have ARIN do something else.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
but does another when
it comes to routing.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
very difficult to obtain;
how do you see it impacting the overall outcome?
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
order estimate for your second and third
questions.
% of space and % of holders, please
I gave % of space in the April numbers above (the number of
holders at that time was approximately 700 of estimated 18000)
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
thanks. but i meant when you report at meeting, on web site, whatever.
please report both, not just the one with the larger number.
Yes, will do.
/John
it as a proposal?
(and to answer Randy - the only control over the administration is based
on the policies adopted. Reduce the corpus of applicable policy if that
is your desire.)
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
is per-RSA,
and ARIN's action with this space is clearly governed by the
policies adopted by the community.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
needs-based allocation
policy, the policy development process, and online automation work doesn't
seem happen without a regional registry and involved community to drive it.
With due respect,
Noted.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Aug 13, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
to make it easiest to understand, i might grind it up into /24
equivalents and present as percentages
Acknowledged,
/John
exchange,
but you might want to seek counsel before trying such on a collective basis...
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
for the associated policy development process,
public policy meetings, travel, conference calls. Quite a bit of savings
available there, but the community first has to decide on permanent policy
(or lack thereof :-) for that automated world before we can reap the savings.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:32 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
If the allocation and reassignment of address space has no policy
associated with it, then there's no doubt that most of the registry
functions can be automated, and there's no need for the associated
policy development process, public policy
, and that's often in
person and at the joint ARIN/NANOG meetings, etc. I can't speak
to the strength of your arguments for eliminating travel, but I
will carry them to the Board as well, if you use the suggestion
process.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
. where the ISP turns
out to be simply a purveyor of IP addresses to online marketing
firms), and circumstances such as those are where reclamation is
used.
Does that clarify things?
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
not seeking commendation, but thanks for the thought. Whether action
will be taken will be based on the findings, and while many people are
indeed disappointed that we act less often than desired, I think folks
understand why we need to be rather cautious in this area.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
discussion at the next ARIN meeting if you feel otherwise.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
p.s. Ongoing threads on ARIN financials should probably move over to
ARIN-discuss sooner or later (out of respect to those on Nanog who
didn't think they signed up
as opposed to the nanog list.
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
the historical scrub will nearly guarantee instability.
(Followups for this really should be to PPML.)
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Aug 15, 2010, at 6:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
Actually, you've got it backwards. The Legacy RSA provides specific
contractual rights which take precedence over present policy or any
policy that might be made which would otherwise limit such rights:
gosh, i must have completely misread
. Or you can enjoy the status quo.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
p.s. If you want to continue to discuss, can we shortly move this to PPML
or ARIN-Discuss for the sake of those not interested in these matters
who have different expectations from their NANOG list
or the IETF as a way of bringing about the change you want based on
community consensus (this is the Internet style of addressing it); feel
free to add your choice of multinational organizations or governments if
you want to more choices with different decision processes.
/John
John Curran
President
that it should include all resources,
including those not currently being utilized, i.e. the phrase wasn't
intended to exclude *utilized* resources from ARIN will take no action
clause. I will have that fixed on the next version of the LRSA.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
discourse is often thought provoking, informative, and
even colorful, but I'll not let it be to the general detriment of the
community. If a new LRSA signatory really wants the old language
with a weaker promise from ARIN, we'll readily accommodate them then.
/John
John Curran
President
of improvements to the LRSA (version 2.0) added several
circumstances that result in pre-contract status quo, and additional
ones could be added if the community wants such and the Board concurs.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
Policy Development Process.
My apologies if this was somehow unclear,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
process to remove the reference.
Thanks,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net
Date: August 15, 2010 6:49:12 AM EDT
To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
Cc: North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Lightly
and conquer... I will confirm with the Board that that is the
intent of the LRSA (which would then allow us to initiate the task of
changing the language accordingly); can you submit this as a suggestion
so that this request is not accidentally lost or overlooked?
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
)
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
.
I'll run with it, but would ask you send in to the suggestion process
so that it doesn't get lost given our level of activity nowadays.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
ISPs to have, even if never needed.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Aug 16, 2010, at 9:57 AM, Joe Maimon jmai...@ttec.com wrote:
...
Kind of interesting to consider how a successful implementation of RPKI
might change the rules of this game we all play in. I tried talking
what else
you suggest we do... could you elaborate here?
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
with this problem? If you can suggest
a straightforward way of vetting a new organization which the community
will support, I'll happily have it implemented asap.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
George -
Full agreement; the next step is defining a deterministic process for
identifying these specific resources which are hijacked, and then making a
policy for ARIN to act. We have a duty of stewardship, so addressing this
problem is a priority if the community directs us to do so via
is issued to an entity and that entity no longer
exists, those resources should be reclaimed by the community within some
reasonable amount of time
Agreed,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:43 PM, John Curran wrote:
Resources being used by actual defunct organizations we will reclaim if
reported.
Folks -
It occurred to me that I could have been clearer, so here I am replying
to myself...
When we at ARIN can readily determine that an organization
suggest such a policy if you feel strongly about this; the process to
to so is shown here: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp_appendix_b.html
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Oct 2, 2010, at 9:28 AM, William Herrin wrote:
The last few times I ran through the process, the hardest part was
getting ARIN to accept the ORG registration.One time we'd let the
state business registration expire by mistake. And the state
registration name didn't exactly match the
surviving entity to
contact. Many parties abandon these transfers mid-process, leaving us to
wonder whether they were exactly as claimed but simply lacking needed
documentation, or whether they were optimistic attempts to hijack.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
any policy which adopted by the community.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
P.S. I will note that we fully have the potential to recreate this problem
in IPv6 if we're not careful, and establishing some very clear record
keeping requirements for IPv6 with both RIRs and ISPs
hostmas...@arin.net.
YESSS! This is exactly the kind of thing I have been asking for!
But more to the point, this is the exact kind of thing that (very bizzarely)
John Curran just told me that he would accept as, in effect, and enhancement
request... AS IF IT DIDN'T ALREADY EXIST
.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
) at automating
this process of marking resource blocks with no valid contacts as an
inherent part of the new automated POC verification process.
/John
John Curran
President CEO
ARIN
On Oct 4, 2010, at 1:25 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
Or the new whois doesn't scale as well as the old one.
Seth -
New WHOIS scales much better than the old one; it would have
extremely challenging to assemble enough equipment to handle
the current query rate. Look at the NANOG
://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
for reference.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
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Begin forwarded message:
From: ARIN i...@arin.netmailto:i...@arin.net
Date: October 13, 2010 11:17:36 AM EDT
To: arin-annou...@arin.netmailto:arin-annou...@arin.net
Subject: [arin-announce] Vote Now for the 2010 Board and AC Elections
approach and it
was requested by the community during the ARIN/NANOG Dearborn meeting.
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
a /29, can request a new
block.
Obviously, this can be changed if the community wishes it so. Bring
any obvious suggestions to the ARIN suggestion process, and anything
which might be contentious or affect allocations to the policy process.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
FYI,
/John
https://www.arin.net/announcements/2010/20101020.html
Posted: Wednesday, 20 October 2010
ARIN today recognizes Interop, an organization with a long-standing presence in
the Internet industry, for returning its unneeded Internet Protocol version 4
(IPv4) address space.
On Oct 20, 2010, at 10:13 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
i think this is cool, but ...
ARIN will follow global policy at that time and return it to the
global free pool or distribute the space to those organizations in the
ARIN region with documented need, as appropriate.
i know the us has the
.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
?
less than 3 months supply at the going drain rate.
Not to be depressing, but a /8 (or 99% of one :-) is potentially less
than one month's drain on the global IPv4 free pool, if one considers
the allocations over the last 12 months to be predictive.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
) won't change the IPv4
depletion/IPv6 deployment timeline substantially, but it's also true
we have folks who are just now realizing IPv4 depletion is happening
and returned address space may make the difference for those who need
just a bit more time...
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
of improved utilization for returned space
is less space which is sitting idle and available to be hijacked.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Oct 20, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
yes, sorry.. since this was returned to ARIN, I assumed the ARIN
region drain rate.
Ah, good point. It may end up in the global pool, so comparison to
either drain rate is quite reasonable.
/John
allocation requirements, including
documented need.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
being able
to return the space, but overall the community recommended
proceeding because the benefit to overall utilization was
deemed worthwhile.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
already happened in many cases; address blocks previously
held by US DoD, BBN, Stanford were returned, held for a period,
and then reissued.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
basis. It's actually global Internet
address space; this is a fundamental principle of the Internet Registry
system as noted in RFC 2050.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Oct 26, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote:
I think ARIN is now doing sparse allocations on /28 boundaries.
Yes (two NANOG messages attached from earlier this month)
/John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net
Date: October 18, 2010 2:55:49 PM EDT
To: David
On Nov 29, 2010, at 11:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
BTW: The attempt failed. Dave @ Above got Exodus Global Center to agree to
pull a Cogent if GTEi pulled a Level 3. GTEi blinked, and the rest is
history.
Patrick -
Your summary is incorrect. To be perfectly clear on the history: In
context as you requested.
Happy Holidays,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
=== REFERENCES
[1] WSIS Tunis Agenda: http://www.itu.int/wsis/docs2/tunis/off/6rev1.html
[2] NRO statement: http://www.nro.net/documents/pdf/StatementbyJohnCurran.pdf
[3] DESA / WSIS Folloup website: http
-discuss mailing list which
has some more context; please feel free to discuss this on the
arin-discuss mailing list or here on NANOG (as appropriate)
Thanks!
/John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net
Date: January 6, 2011 11:08:39 AM EST
To: George, Wes E [NTK
process: https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html
Alternatively, point to a best practice document from the operator
community for what should be done here. ARIN's work plan is very much
driven by community input, so that's what is needed here.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President
the status quo for these services.
Should IRR services be part of the ARIN mission? ARIN-discuss
would be a great mailing list on which to discuss this topic, or
(along the lines of Randy's earlier comments) on this NANOG list,
if the mailing list folks consider it to be on topic.
/John
John Curran
help the ARIN staff make informed recommendations to the
ARIN Board regarding how to best proceed. I'd also welcome
private email with these thoughts if that's your preference.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
for operational input (either within ARIN or via liaison to another body) is
called for, I'd suggest continued discussion on the various mailing lists.
Interesting discussion... thanks for raising it.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
for operational
security matters. Consider this one so reported.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
what lack
of information there is on the web site in regards to what forms of IRR
authentication is available, I will go determinate the state of reality
and post back here asap. At a minimum, we need much clearer documentation,
but if more is required, we'll get it fixed asap.
/John
John Curran
On Jan 10, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
On 01/09/2011 10:09, John Curran wrote:
Please suggest your preferred means of IRR authentication to the ARIN
suggestion process:https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/index.html
...
Now it seems that you acknowledged that further
to said suggestion
form. As noted, we're now looking into how to fix the IRR authentication
situation and will report back asap.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
.
Will do - Thanks for the note.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
Copy to NANOG for those who aren't on ARIN lists but may be interested in this
info.
FYI.
/John
Begin forwarded message:
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.netmailto:jcur...@arin.net
Date: January 24, 2011 2:58:52 PM EST
To: arin-annou...@arin.netmailto:arin-annou...@arin.net
arin-annou
On Jan 11, 2011, at 9:14 AM, John Curran wrote:
As noted, we're now looking into how to fix the IRR authentication
situation and will report back asap.
Based on the ARIN's IRR authentication thread a couple of weeks ago, there
were suggestions placed into ARIN's ACSP process for changes
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:09 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
Based on the ARIN's IRR authentication thread a couple of weeks ago, there
were suggestions placed into ARIN's ACSP process for changes to ARIN's IRR
system. ARIN has looked at the integration issues involved and has scheduled
an upgrade to the
sent out
earlier, and provides some insight into the considerations that have led ARIN's
position on resource certification.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Jan 29, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:00 PM, John Curran jcur...@arin.net wrote:
Based on the ARIN's IRR authentication thread a couple of weeks ago, there
were suggestions placed into ARIN's ACSP process for changes to ARIN's IRR
system. ARIN has looked
FYI - Some people in this community may want to watch this event (either in
person or via webcast)
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
Begin forwarded message:
From: ARIN i...@arin.netmailto:i...@arin.net
Date: February 1, 2011 7:09:02 AM EST
To: arin-annou...@arin.netmailto:arin-annou
up in December (about 25% increase) but that is within
reasonable variation. Today was a little different, though, with 4 times
the normal request rate... that would be a rush.
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:46 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 03:09:50 GMT, John Curran said:
We had a small ramp up in December (about 25% increase) but that is within
reasonable variation. Today was a little different, though, with 4 times
the normal request rate
with the definitive answer.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:19 PM, John Curran wrote:
On Feb 1, 2011, at 11:05 PM, George Herbert wrote:
More interesting would be re-requests - organizations exhausting an
initial allocation and requiring more. People asking for the first
one just indicates initial adoption rates.
Other than
noticed, so the resources can be
reclaimed and reissued.
Or, we can fix policy..?
Absolutely... if the policy doesn't match your needs, please make a policy
proposal.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
.
Policy proposal process: https://www.arin.net/policy/pdp.html
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
no shortage of authority updating that database as long
as the community wishes it so.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:57 AM, John Curran wrote:
On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
Such transfers should be reported when noticed, so the resources can be
reclaimed and reissued.
Is any RIR authorized, in a legal
, and we're incorporated in
the State of Virginia as nonstock corporation pursuant to the
Virginia Nonstock Corporation Act. Our corporate documents are
available here:
https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs.html
Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have further questions.
/John
John
trying to ask a different question, I'm more than happy to answer,
but I'd ask that you be more explicit.
Thank you,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Ernie Rubi wrote:
I think it's OK to say you cannot/would rather not answer the question,
instead of giving
according to
the community developed policies. This includes changing the entries
which designate the address holder, and specify that there is now a new
address holder.
None of this has to do with how entities configure their routers or
servers.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:02 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Curran jcur...@arin.net
On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:34 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
I strongly suspect that his question is actually Does ARIN have any
enforceable legal authority to compel an entity to cease using
On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:42 PM, David Conrad wrote:
Second, neither ICANN nor the USG has (to my knowledge) declared the RIRs to
be successor registries (whatever they are).
David - ARIN succeeded Network Solutions in 1997 in the performance of IP
number assignment, Autonomous System number
is not performing these duties under
USG contract. I have no view on the question to which you replied,
but want to be certain everyone has clear facts for the discussion.
FYI,
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
PPML mailing
list and are open to all parties. Information on the Policy Development
Process, the PPML mailing list, and the current proposals are all included
in the attached message.
Thanks!
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
Begin forwarded message:
From: ARIN i
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 5, 2011, at 11:22 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
as you pointed out back in oh, IETF-29, actual network operators
don't participate much in the standards setting process so its
no wonder RFC 2050 has (several) blind-spots when it comes to
operational reality.
the views from papers that have
actually been peer-reviewed and published (attached)...
/John
Legal And Policy Aspects Of Internet Number Resources
Santa Clara Computer High Technology Law Journal.
Volume 24
Issue 2
Page 335
Authors: Stephen M. Ryan, Esq. , Raymond A. Plzak , and John
On Feb 5, 2011, at 1:27 PM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 10:17:29AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote:
...
It's dominated by the type of network operator who shows up and participates.
Generally, I hear what you're saying and don't disagree, but this is one of
may return it, or
transfer according to the community developed policies.
/John
John Curran
President and CEO
ARIN
On Feb 5, 2011, at 1:54 PM, James P. Ashton ja...@gitflorida.com wrote:
John,
It seams that by stating Note that ARIN can't allow transfers contrary to the
community-developed
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