Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread albertpublic
You know how easy it is to fake IRC logs? Yes, I do. And I also know that these aren't fake. I've seen them before, from some respected sources in the ISP security community, and I've also seen Gregory's manifesto sent to the EFNet admins list admitting to having launched DDoS attacks

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread albertpublic
Matthew (yes I know it is you) No, my name is Albert. I have not attacked any Internet Service Provider or IRC server in several years. I am and have been retired from the underground for a long while now, despite the constant comments made to the contrary by people who do not represent me in

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread jqtaxpayer
Hello, I just thought I should chime in here. Below you will find OseK's (Greg Taylor) manifesto sent to EFnet admins during an event last year where OseK was attacking most EFnet servers. Additionally, I can tell you that Greg was attacking my network at some point in the last year,

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG (retry)

2004-03-16 Thread jqtaxpayer
Sorry about the last post, my client's linewrap seems to not work properly, I'll try again. Hello, I just thought I should chime in here. Below you will find OseK's (Greg Taylor) manifesto sent to EFnet admins during an event last year where OseK was attacking most EFnet servers.

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread Michael . Dillon
People should be worried about stuff like this. Banetele is a facilities-based network operator in Norway and these guys are directly attacking their BGP sessions to put them off the air. Assuming that they are not sourcing the attacks in Banetele's AS, then you, the peer of Banetele are

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People should be worried about stuff like this. Banetele is a facilities-based network operator in Norway and these guys are directly attacking their BGP sessions to put them off the air. Can anyone from Banetele/who knows Banetele confirm this

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread sthaug
People should be worried about stuff like this. Banetele is a facilities-based network operator in Norway and these guys are directly attacking their BGP sessions to put them off the air. Can anyone from Banetele/who knows Banetele confirm this attack took place? According to the

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread David Barak
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming that they are not sourcing the attacks in Banetele's AS, then you, the peer of Banetele are delivering the packet stream that kills the BGP session. How long before peering agreements require ACLs in border routers so that only BGP peering routers

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread John Quincy Taxpayer
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 04:14:01 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to the people I spoke to, they had not noticed such an attack on the date specified. And, while not knowing the specifics of this situation, if you were being attacked, and it hurt your network, would you continue to piss

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread Alexei Roudnev
: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 3:54 AM Subject: Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People should be worried about stuff like this. Banetele is a facilities-based network operator in Norway and these guys are directly attacking their BGP sessions to put

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread sthaug
Hmm, if someone (except masochists and security vendiors) still hosts efnet... I can only send them my condoleences. I saw sthe same dialogs 6 years ago. Nothing changes. BaneTele hosts an EFnet IRC server. Caused no significant problems while I was working at BaneTele. That's probably

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread jlewis
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote: Hmm, if someone (except masochists and security vendiors) still hosts efnet... I can only send them my condoleences. I saw sthe same dialogs 6 years ago. Nothing changes. What about undernet? A customer wants us to help him setup an undernet IRC

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Alexei Roudnev wrote: Hmm, if someone (except masochists and security vendiors) still hosts efnet... I can only send them my condoleences. I saw sthe same dialogs 6 years ago. Nothing changes. What about undernet?

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-16 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, if someone (except masochists and security vendiors) still hosts efnet... I can only send them my condoleences. I saw sthe same dialogs 6 years ago. Nothing changes. What about undernet? Thats even worse :) A customer wants us to

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Charles Sprickman
Why is NANOG starting to sound like full-disclosure? Can't you kids just argue amongst yourselves on IRC or something? This is so off-charter... If any of the involved parties thinks anyone cares, you'd do well to check your egos. -- Charles Sprickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 15 Mar 2004,

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread John Harold
Yes, Gregory Taylor aka OseK is a perfect gentlemen now. Here are logs from Feb 4th 2004 showing him being a perfect gentlemen... (08:35:45) #sigdie!OseK_ :[NEMESIS] Nodes are attacking 212.242.41.0/24 on port 666 for 60 seconds using spoofed TCP RESET Packets ... (08:36:04) #sigdie!OseK_

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Brian Bruns
On Monday, March 15, 2004 1:11 PM [EST], John Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Gregory Taylor aka OseK is a perfect gentlemen now. Here are logs from Feb 4th 2004 showing him being a perfect gentlemen... You know how easy it is to fake IRC logs? (16:12:01) #nanog!jh I l33t hax0red

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread ren
Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not need to watch this road kill. -ren At 06:11 PM 3/15/2004 +, John Harold wrote: Yes, Gregory Taylor aka OseK is a perfect gentlemen now. Here are logs from Feb 4th 2004 showing him being a perfect gentlemen...

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread james
: Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not need : to watch this road kill. -ren But they sure make good kill file fodder ! James Edwards Routing and Security [EMAIL PROTECTED] At the Santa Fe Office: Internet at Cyber Mesa Store hours: 9-6 Monday through Friday

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
ren wrote: Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not need to watch this road kill. -ren mode=voice in the wilderness Some where it was ineffectively written that if you stop responding to them, and particularly, if you stop endorsing the crap by quoting it all

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread David Barak
Susan, could you please clarify the NANOG AUP for the benefit of some of our young/new posters? Thank you, -David Barak -Fully RFC 1925 Compliant- --- John Harold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snipped IRC junk = David Barak -fully RFC 1925 compliant- __ Do you

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-15 Thread Stefan Larsson
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, David Barak wrote: Susan, could you please clarify the NANOG AUP for the benefit of some of our young/new posters? Thank you, -David Barak -Fully RFC 1925 Compliant- Either that or they can check out the website, http://www.nanog.org/aup.html --

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-14 Thread albertpublic
Greg, Let me spell it out crystal clear so you can understand. Are you, or are you not, the Gregory Taylor referenced in the URL's I sent below? Albert P. (signing his real name so Susan won't remove him from the list) maturity in its purest form. -- Original Message

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-14 Thread Gregory Taylor
Matthew (yes I know it is you), The personal information you have posted regarding my phone number is me. However, the slanderous material and obvious hate/flame statements you made against me are absolutely false. I have not attacked any Internet Service Provider or IRC server in several

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-14 Thread Matthew S. Hallacy
On Sun, Mar 14, 2004 at 10:43:29PM -0600, Gregory Taylor wrote: Matthew (yes I know it is you), The personal information you have posted regarding my phone number is me. However, the slanderous material and obvious hate/flame statements you made against me are absolutely false. For

Re: Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

2004-03-13 Thread Gregory Taylor
maturity in its purest form. -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:17:42 -0800 I've noticed a number of shining stars in the network engineering industry have graced us with their presence and infinite wisdom in the