Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi Alan, Is there an alternative to Second Life out there, open source or free? marc If anyone has a copy of Premiere that can do HD, please let me know. If anyone has extra land on Second Life they would rent me cheaply, please let me know. My life is getting truly fucked up. Thank

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Rob Myers
There's OpenSim, which is unfortunately based on Mono and C#, and a bit fiddly for normal SL users to connect to. http://opensimulator.org/ You can export stuff to it though IIRC, and it's getting more serious usage now. - Rob. 2009/10/6 marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org: Hi Alan,

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
2009 12:53 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) Hi Rob, Even though OpenSim is based on Mono, perhaps even this is better than supporting such a grand, corporate orientated platform such as Second Life, one

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
- From: marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org Sent: 06 October 2009 12:53 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) Hi Rob, Even though OpenSim is based on Mono, perhaps even this is better than supporting

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
There's OpenSim, which is based on it, but OpenSim doesn't have the walk-in audience and seemed also buggy to me. SL works really well, when it works; I've used it for years. I don't know what's happening to be honest - I heard from Helfe, and he doesn't either. I'd still prefer SL because

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) Hi Corrado, Alan asked for space within sl, not an alternative. But it costs... marc Second life, as much as i have issues with it has many productive affordances. It's a bit like doing a project on north london, but suggesting one does it in swansea. I think alan's

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi Corrado, Alan others, There is nothing that I actually disagree with here, but I cannot help feeling uncomfortable with the creative industries and corporate companies, hijacking or diverting media artists and related practices from working with more 'grass roots' platforms, even if they

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
Of marc garrett Sent: 06 October 2009 7:14 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) Hi Corrado, Alan others, There is nothing that I actually disagree with here, but I cannot help feeling uncomfortable with the creative industries and corporate

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Just wanted to jump in here. I find SL actually more populist, far far more grass roots than opensim, etc. It's like linux - I love linux, but grass roots is Windows, which does things for you; linux is for people who want to operate the OS in depth. My work's no more for geeks than any

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Hi ALan, mmm, I'm not asking for A mono-cultural and isolated thing here, more of a conscious effort by people to support each other, artists or whatever those communities may be. I feel that sharing and supporting others is an honourable thing to do - not for any religious reasons or

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread marc garrett
Of marc garrett Sent: 06 October 2009 7:14 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) Hi Corrado, Alan others, There is nothing that I actually disagree with here, but I cannot help feeling uncomfortable with the creative industries

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
Hi marc, for me part of my culture is Second Life. I don't know why you think your description below is at variance from my own; we all want a better world to live in of course. Nor do I see where genius fits into this at all. In SL there's community and it's fairly grounded and smart and as

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Alan Sondheim
, not an alternative. c -Original Message- From: marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org Sent: 06 October 2009 12:53 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) Hi Rob, Even though OpenSim

Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd)

2009-10-06 Thread Corrado Morgana
Damn right -Original Message- From: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] On Behalf Of marc garrett Sent: 06 October 2009 11:00 PM To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] query (fwd) I agree