Re: nettime The Sudden Stardom of the Third-World City

2006-03-31 Thread John Young
There is hardly a better prescription for dreaming of suicide, by cities, persons or ideoligies, than comfortable success and lack of a need to struggle to survive. The invention of the Third World brand came from the mental laziness non-western intellectuals and political ideolgues grown soft

Re: nettime The Sudden Stardom of the Third-World City

2006-03-30 Thread Keith Hart
Andreas, Thank you for bringing up again the fundamental issues raised by Rana's essay. My own immediate response to her exchange with Ben was intemperate; so you have given me another chance to be more reasoned. The main demographic event of the last half-century was the rise of Third World

Re: nettime The Sudden Stardom of the Third-World City

2006-03-29 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
dear rana, though i am neither well-travelled in the third world and its metropolises, nor a student of their socio-economies, i would like to raise some questions with regard to your thought-provoking article. the hypothesis (the Third-World metropolis is becoming the symbol of the new) is

Re: nettime The Sudden Stardom of the Third-World City

2006-03-24 Thread Benjamin Geer
On 24/03/06, Keith Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I truly wonder where Benjamin got the material for his riposte Mostly from listening to Egyptians. Where do you get your information on Bolivian politics?The Guardian? I admit I'm far from knowledgeable about Bolivia, but what brought it

Re: nettime The Sudden Stardom of the Third-World City

2006-03-23 Thread Benjamin Geer
On 23/03/06, Rana Dasgupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE SUDDEN STARDOM OF THE THIRD-WORLD CITY I think you have a point about Westerners' changing perceptions, but perhaps you ought to have mentioned the vast gulf between those commodified images and the ways many who live in third-world