Richard:
No I didn't! I was - and still am - a *left* social democrat.
H -- DEJA VU all over again . . . g
http://www.nettime.org/Lists-Archives/nettime-l-9903/msg00138.html
I especially like Ted Byfield's editorial about what belongs on nettime!
[nettime isn't the best venue for
Hiya,
As you recall, Richard supported Tony Blair
No I didn't! I was - and still am - a *left* social democrat. Like
many members of the Labour party, I strongly disagree with the
authoritarian and imperialist policies of its leadership...
Later,
Richard
# distributed via nettime: no
For the sake of clarity Geert are you putting yourself forward for
all the hard work involved in being part of the next stage in the
'rotation'. you are proposing or is this a prompting that others
rather than yourself should put themselves forward to take up this
burden ?
On Jun 9, 2006, at 8:33
Not directly but in any community/collective I know if someone 'stands up in a
meeting' and makes a suggestion involving work then such an intervention
carries with it the implication (and perhaps responsibility) that they are
also willing to share in that work.
Otherwise the intervention could
For the sake of clarity Geert are you putting yourself forward for
all the hard work involved in being part of the next stage in the
'rotation'. you are proposing or is this a prompting that others
rather than yourself should put themselves forward to take up this
burden ?
No, not at all.
I find this all very interesting and I would like to point out that
the term list lurker does nothing to encourage participation,
but creates a quality of power. Is the list lurker part of a
necessary culture, giving authority to those who post regularly
(list dominators?)? I also wonder if a list
friends,
so long as we can limit this debate to a few days, i think it is a
welcome occasion to think about one of the wonders of the online
world - after all, Nettime is still one of the most interesting and
most active (and kicking) mailing lists with a relatively consistent
topical field,
Hi all, just a few comments. I enjoyed the Montreal nettime online and
the tech worked out fine. It is really a shame that the announcement of
this (online) event came through only hours after the event ended. The
reason for this is simple. Ted and Felix should be thanked for their
massive
Folks:
Time(s) moves along -- especially nettime(s).
Forgive me if this has already been stated but there were a number of
specific conditions that made nettime possible -- the inflating of the
Internet
Bubble in the late 90's, the disruption in many people's lives as funding for
One of the things I like best about nettime is the high
signal-to-noise ratio, and I think it's got better over the last few
years. It seems to me that a lot of thought generally goes into the
postings that appear here, thanks both to the authors and the
moderators. So if a day goes by without
hi all,
and thanks for (finally) some serious discussion about the list and the --more
or less complicated--dynamics existing within it.
I will be very short as I'm posting from a very unconfortable location in
overpacked Amsterdam (by the way, if someone from there wants to meet that
would be
At 11:31 PM -0400 6/7/06, t byfield wrote:
Let's say for the sake of argument that nettime is actually run by
Satan himself.
okay, just for the sake of argument:
i read your use of religious imagery as insinuating dogmatism on the
part of the other. i'll be happy to be corrected.
Do his motives
Felix:
The rebels of the net.culture of the 1990s have encountered a
cruel fate: they won. Alas, not on their terms.
Then they didn't win -- they lost. If you insist on calling them
rebels. g
Many of the themes that have been explored by the old-timers
are now mainstream.
Which
On Jun 8, 2006, at 10:12 AM, Geert Lovink wrote:
Ted and Felix should be thanked for their
massive work, move on and rotate, leaving others (a bigger group, I
would suggest) to moderate the central nettime-l list.
For the sake of clarity Geert are you putting yourself forward for
all the hard
dear nettimers,
Interesting that when the list turns on itself (attention-wise) it
suddenly comes alive!
Makes me think that maybe it would be a good idea to organise also a
Nettime Europe meeting - would be fun.
Of course Felix would be invited (he's based in Europe already for
some
dear tobias, dear nettimers,
i would merely like to congratulate tobias and the team in montreal
for organising the meeting! i don't really understand the bickering
and, tobias, don't worry, the fact that this meeting has taken place
is already a great achievement, after many years of trying to
I'll skip the comment on European levels of funding (I mean,
tobias, Canada is hardly an underfunded environment and seems rather
comfortable for a lot of people in Europe), but the questions raised
by tobias' remarks on events and funding as well as the intimidating
atmosphere on the list deserve
Tobias - I regret I wasn't able to make it. I'm in a remote spot in
Switzerland at the moment, but followed the progress of the event with
interest. Glad to see that it went well! We should try something in
NYC. I think that the list has been a bit flat for a while, but hey,
there's always more
On Jun 7, 2006, at 5:13 AM, Andreas Broeckmann wrote:
(for me the question is, whether it is possible to get out of
the stale-mate that the list seems to be in; is it possible to make
communication more fluid again, or is the list just too old after 11
years? vuk - whatever happened to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wed 06/07/06 at 12:38 PM -0400):
But if our absence merely ended up paving the way for a 'private' --
through commission and omission -- event, can you tell me why exactly the
name nettime had or has anything to do with it?
Yikes..!
double-yikes, indeed!
this
Thanks Tobias for the report -- I was a bit dismayed to receive the
email announcing the stream too late to tune in, as I had wanted to.
Although many of the issues definitely hit home, I guess I have found
that nettime front-channel is what it is. I rely on it for noisy and
occasionally
Let's say for the sake of argument that nettime is actually run by
Satan himself. Do his motives matter? For most subscribers' purposes
I think the answer is probably no. The very worst I could do is a pale
shadow by comparison with him, so it seems like my motives would be
that much less
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