Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12

2012-05-09 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, May 08, 2012 at 10:45:33PM +0100, Rob Myers wrote: On 05/08/2012 05:52 PM, Morlock Elloi wrote: The curiously absent question is why there should be social media in the first place, and 'media' in general. Lascaux. Notice that memes and image macros is a regression to pictorial

Re: nettime Why I say the things I say

2012-05-09 Thread Jaromil
re all, On Sun, 06 May 2012, newme...@aol.com wrote: Commodified and detached-from-history displays of this sort are much more likely to *hide* than to *reveal* anything useful about our *living* culture for the simple reason that those who actually construct these exhibits have no culture

Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12

2012-05-09 Thread William Waites
For what it's worth, the *original* Internet (okay, ARPANET) was quite centralized and, in fact, had surveillance (albeit of a very small group of researchers who had grown reluctant to travel to brain-storm) as (one of) its primary goals. This is a strange thing to say. Centralised in

Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12

2012-05-09 Thread John Hopkins
Interesting question William -- So, does capitalism still have a broad social *purpose* once a significant level of industrialization has already been achieved? I have a Harris tweed jacket that I like very much and wear almost every day. I like to take the train. Did the history that

Re: nettime Privacy, Moglen, @ioerror, #rp12 (Lascaux)

2012-05-09 Thread Patrice Riemens
Lascaux is far from being low cost/free and with global reach, which I had in mind. Show me someone who contributes to 'social media' today with an eye on recognition 10,000 years from now. Which is what transpired in Lascaux - the style did not change for thousands of years, and very few

nettime Orlov: Shale gas the view from Russia

2012-05-09 Thread michael gurstein
http://peakoil.com/production/orlov-shale-gas-the-view-from-russia/ (Somehow this seems relevent... Orlov: Shale gas the view from Russia The official shale gas story goes something like this: recent technological breakthroughs by US energy companies have made it possible to tap an abundant but