Re: nettime Nobel laureate in economics aged 102 endorses the human economy...

2013-01-23 Thread Newmedia
John: The submersion (perversion!) of much general systems thinking into the cybernetic/military-industrial was an unfortunate result of crossovers between all these people (and others) at the time. As I emphasized to Brian, when you look at any of this with perversion and

Re: nettime living systems theory [2x]

2013-01-23 Thread John Hopkins
- Forwarded message from John Hopkins jhopk...@neoscenes.net - From: John Hopkins jhopk...@neoscenes.net Reply-To: jhopk...@neoscenes.net Subject: Re: nettime living systems theory Organization: neoscenes Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 09:20:03 -0700 To: list nettime nettim...@kein.org On

Re: nettime Response to Academe Is Complicit essay

2013-01-23 Thread Rob Myers
On 23/01/13 05:04, Lincoln Cushing wrote: By withholding free access to the ultimate goody, the 60 megabyte image file, am I a traitor to the Free Culture Movement? If you want to phrase it in those terms, then yes. - Rob. # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission

Re: nettime living systems theory [2x]

2013-01-23 Thread chris mann
my response was to your .. In general, living systems process more information than non-living systems, with the possible exception of computers which have greater information processing capabilities. and your A machine .. carries information (as order). seems to echo the confusion. the

Re: nettime Nobel laureate in economics aged 102 endorses the human economy...

2013-01-23 Thread Newmedia
Brian: And the question is: Does this represent the longed-for foundation of a new expansionist wave? Or (more likely in my view) just the agitated death throes of neoliberal informationalism? There you go again! g You really can't put an ideology on these developments, since they are

nettime transmediale 2013 BWPWAP

2013-01-23 Thread Kristoffer Gansing
Dear nettimers old and new, I hope some of you are dropping by the transmediale festival next week. Have a look at an outline of the programme that I provided below! /Kristoffer Gansing, artistic director, transmediale. transmediale 2013 BWPWAP BACK WHEN Mobile phones were dumb. Letters