Re: How do we govern ourselves? (was: Mechanical Turkish)

2018-02-07 Thread Patrice Riemens
Aloha, On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 07:32:33AM -0600, Blake Stimson wrote: > > > The core question of a democratic society is not "how do I become free?" > > Rather it is "how do we govern ourselves?" Crucially that means: with which > > institutions, under which rules, backed by which constraints

Re: your nettime posts

2018-02-07 Thread Blake Stimson
Thank you Felix, and apologies--it appears that I was subscribed via an old (but still functional) email address but sending posts from a current address. I have updated my subscription so hopefully now everything will be in alignment. Best wishes, Blake On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 3:55 AM, Felix

Re: The Face Value of Bitcoin: Proof of Work and the Labour

2018-02-07 Thread Dmytri Kleiner
Sure, a blockchain without a cryptocurrency could work that way, but that would not accomplish the goals of the bitcoin creators. You might be interested in Taler: https://taler.net/en/ Anyway, thanks for the feedback, if you're on twitter, would be awesome if you'd share it! Where are you

Re: The Face Value of Bitcoin: Proof of Work and the Labour

2018-02-07 Thread Douglas Rushkoff
This is a fine analysis, Dymitri. Of course, where the blockchain could work would be to authenticate value exchange against some other unit of measurement. The whole thing becomes a ledger for Time dollars or some other metric. Without that, cryptocurrency is just retrieving the scarce currency

Re: I farted

2018-02-07 Thread Andre Rebentisch
Cavalry charges against tanks. Is this a legend or real? Anyway, one of the most iconic and defeating acts of bravery is the sinking of the interned imperial fleet at Scapa Flow. The first ship that sunk was SMS Friedrich der Große, named after another ruler (whose brother build memorials for

Re: How do we govern ourselves? (was: Mechanical Turkish)

2018-02-07 Thread Blake Stimson
Thanks for the generous response Brian, and very glad that we now agree that we agree on the parts listed. Let me try to attend to the part still in dispute. In the end I think we do largely agree even about this---that is, we are both focused on what you call “binding norms”---and only differ in