Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-12 Thread K E N O
The Voyager Golden Record is an abstract of humanity. Are those really the key facts about humanity? What do we want to tell aliens about us? Are cable TV, internet memes and Starbucks coffee not a better abstract of our (yes, rich and privileged Western) culture (and their counterparts in

Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-12 Thread Felix Stalder
Forget the aliens. If you read Liu Cixin's Three Body Problem, you don't want to communicate with them. On 2018-01-12 12:19, Sean Cubitt wrote: > would it be more useful/interesting to establish communication with > planet Earth? “If a lion would speak, we would not be able to > understand it”

Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-12 Thread Sean Cubitt
018 20:17:37 +0100 > From: K E N O <lucky@kenokeno.bingo> > To: christineT <christin...@no-log.org>, nettim...@kein.org > Subject: Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network > Message-ID: <B48BDD30-FF1B-4C53-8336-2E80D1415CFC@kenokeno.bingo> > Content-Type: text/plain; ch

Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-11 Thread John Hopkins
Keith - you beat me to it -- There is much room for expanding ones communicative system in the immediate surrounds of this very planet -- there is an abundance of communicative energy flows all around us. Most of these we are -- by choice and by social convention -- completely ignoring. Yet

Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-11 Thread Keith Hart
As a thought experiment, consider why we can't communicate with the ants or vice versa. Their social organization is stronger than ours and their collective intelligence is demonstrable. It may be that one side is more primitive than the other. But which? Kant held that reason is still largely

Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-11 Thread K E N O
> It would probably not be called internet, require a better > understanding and use of our "other senses and sensors". > Maybe it exists and we dumbs don't perceive it... or we don't know that > certain waves effects are signs of it... or we produce too much > electromagnetic pollution to be able

Re: Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-11 Thread christineT
I very much like the idea of a communication network expanded to aliens (us included) and the question of imperialistic subordination of ones by others. It would probably not be called internet, require a better understanding and use of our "other senses and sensors". Maybe it exists and we dumbs

Speculative Intergalactic Network

2018-01-11 Thread K E N O
Let’s assume (so called intelligent) aliens would exist. What do you think: How would communication work with those aliens? How would it change the Internet if we expanded it to different planets? I’ve been wondering if hierarchical structures between the new lifeforms and us humans would occur