Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-09 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Hello Michael, Let me try then to clarify my position a bit further. First about the lockdowns. I have conceded already that the lockdowns were probably necessary / inevitable because of the care system being totally overburdened. So in the first phase of this pandemic (I consider where we are

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-08 Thread Michael Goldhaber
Eric, in your diatribe about openness, which seems to me quite silly and against the reality that perfectly legal assemblies have taken place, you also make a scientific statement of doubtful validity, that since the virus will continue to mutate there is no possible protection against it,

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-08 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
OK - hello lizvlx, It was meanwhile pointed out to me whom I was talking to - pardon my misconception about Uebermorgen, it was simply not clear to me who I was talking to.. You are entirely justified to point out any issues in the text you do not agree with. Thank you for that, it helps to

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-08 Thread lizvlx
> Hello ‘lizvix’ - don’t know who this is - the ‘Hans’ of Übermorgen? Ahhh — Are you trying to be rude or are you really not aware that Ubermorgen consists not only of one man? I find that quite amusing :D - you are funny man. So to clear that up, I am lizvlx, the lizvlx of Ubermorgen. Why do

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-06 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Thank you Brian for these great comments reflecting the US situation right now. And yes the situation in the US is markedly different than on the old continent. There’s many things to say, but a few quick responses to what you write: First of all the whole concept of affect space was never

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-06 Thread Brian Holmes
Greetings Eric - Congratulations on a significant piece of writing. You really have followed a public research trajectory. It is great to see this all put together, both retrospectively and prospectively, in a short essay. On a quick read I see two big gaps between experiences in the US and what

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-06 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Hello ‘lizvix’ - don’t know who this is - the ‘Hans’ of Übermorgen? Anyway a few answers / corrections on your questions: > On 6 Oct 2020, at 16:47, lizvlx wrote: > > Hi there > > A few questions- I don’t want to misunderstand yr text > > 1. what do u mean by (mass) gatherings have

Re: The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-06 Thread lizvlx
Hi there A few questions- I don’t want to misunderstand yr text 1. what do u mean by (mass) gatherings have been suspended? 2. What countries r u referring to? 3. do u have an issue with a lockdown per se or is this coz u don’t think the pandemic necessitates such a thing? 4. what

The Zombie Public – Or, how to revive ‘the public’ and public space after the pandemic.

2020-10-06 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
dear nettimers, please note: This for me rather unusually opinionated text has just been published on the Open! platform. The essay explores the insistent somatic turn in technologically enabled scrutiny of public spaces and its acceleration in response to the COVID-19 crisis. It argues that