Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin Myths #ANON

2016-01-14 Thread morlockelloi
Here ( https://medium.com/@octskyward/the-resolution-of-the-bitcoin-experiment-dabb30201f7 ) is a proper requiem for Bitcoin, written by the insider: ... Why has Bitcoin failed? It has failed because the community has failed. What was meant to be a new, decentralized form of money that lacked

Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin

2015-12-06 Thread morlockelloi
[2/x This message should not go out to the nettime-l list, but if it does we apologize. We're troubleshooting an issue that affects morlock's outgoing emails. -- mod (tb)] This concern also applies to other lowly workers in data mining industries (which is really the only thing going on in

Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin

2015-12-06 Thread fls
[This message should not go out to the nettime-l list, but if it does we apologize. We're troubleshooting an issue that affects morlock's outgoing emails. -- mod (tb)] This concern also applies to other lowly workers in data mining industries (which is really the only thing going on in data

***SPAM*** Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin

2015-12-02 Thread morlockelloi
This concern also applies to other lowly workers in data mining industries (which is really the only thing going on in data centers today.) Colocations (one 'l') are cold, noisy, often locked down to the point where one needs an escort to go pee, there are surveillance cameras all around the

Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin

2015-12-02 Thread John Hopkins
This info from the morlock & elloi and the previous poster raised the question in my mind -- a question that is *not* facetious -- of the conditions that Bitcoin miners are working under. Bitcoin mining is currently reduced to less than 10 operators. There is relatively small number of people

Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin

2015-12-02 Thread Nick
Quoth John Hopkins: > I wonder, though, about the personal lives of the miners. Are > they enjoying the fruits of their labor?, what are their daily > living conditions?, what kinds of stresses are incurred by their > activities? Vice did an interesting short film about a bitcoin mine in China a

de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin Myths

2015-11-30 Thread nettime's_forgotten_password
10 Bitcoin Myths By Eduard de Jong, Geert Lovink and Patrice Riemens "Pigs will fly, but not in the next 100 million years." Johan Sjerpstra 1. "Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer system." In order to transfer value from one Bitcoin account to another, the owner of bitcoins uses the services of a

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2015-11-30 Thread morlockelloi
Compared to the trust in traditional currencies, the trust in Bitcoin is in the fanaticism end of the scale, due to the simple math - how much does it cost to subvert a currency: Traditional currencies, operated by the state-size actors, lose value when the state's economy and the state

Re: de Jong, Lovink, and Riemens: 10 Bitcoin Myths

2015-11-30 Thread Rob Myers
On 2015-11-30 11:06, nettime's_forgotten_password wrote: >1. "Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer system." It is. Anyone can (and should) run a full node. Doubly so if they're concerned about centralisation. >2. "Bitcoin does away with intermediaries and fees." There are no necessary intermediaries in