I'm astounded. Nay, dismayed. There is clearly a lot going. On a
historic scale.
New patterns of social control? Check. See them emerging long the axis
of service/empowerment (Google) and surveillance/repression (NSA).
Changing social patterns? Check. See the deepening and hardening of
Oh, Felix, the pinheads are becoming ever tinier and hotter as the
stems ares heated by national guardians laser-searching for needles
in global haystacks of data. Dancers on the pinheads, veteran data
guardian angels, high step as hot-foot Mercuries seeking perks
inspired by oligarchic pay for
HI Felix and nettime,
Bringing together again the two threads, Bay Area and gentrification
There is clearly a lot going. On a historic scale.
None of this is fundamentally new, but the everyday contradictions this
engenders -- particularly in centers of Western progress -- are more
I wish we were talking about governmental bureaucracies rather
than corporations when discussing the id of institutionalized
evil.
--dan
Save for the trifling detail that corporations, the big multinational
ones, are our new ruling institutions. Governmental bureaucracies merely
function as
...Ben and Jerry's...
The comedic genius Chris Rock, once made a joke that said that men are only
as faithful as their options. The same applies to the ethical standards of
corporations.
Setting aside the fact that in the context of this conversation, our focus
is obviously on large
And btw, y'all could still dump your overpriced Mac OS for a nice Linux
distro anytime!
Hilarious. You are quite the comedian. Unfortunately, on the desktop, OS X
is what Linux wants to be when it grows up.
Now, getting back to the main issue, what is going on here? Facebook is
evil? Google
Art,
It's a quote...for further information on the use of the term 'evil' in
connection with google who initiated the use of the term themselves in
relation to themselves, please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_be_evil
http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/19/opinion/rushkoff-google-robotics/
This is pretty much the best mainstream article summarizing the current
issues with gentrification in SF:
How Burrowing Owls Lead To Vomiting Anarchists (Or SF???s Housing Crisis
Explained)
http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/14/sf-housing/
Art McGee
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On 05/15/2014 02:17 AM, Art McGee wrote:
Hilarious. You are quite the comedian. Unfortunately, on the desktop, OS X
is what Linux wants to be when it grows up.
Maybe and maybe not quite. But Macintosh, the box and the brand, is a
consumerist ideology, the most profitable corporation in the
-Are there regional differences in how converging technologies are imagined
by science policy (E.U. vs USA vs elsewhere in world)?
-Has/How has the transhumanist imagination influenced the direction of
software development communities? Which ones?
-What is the transhumanist imagination?
Even so, many people here, while disliking Google for some things,
also recognize that some of the tech giants are making real efforts on
environmental issues, and some of them are trying to at least consider
how they affect local communities. But sometimes it's hard to
Certainly any of these
On 05/13/2014 12:31 AM, michael gurstein wrote:
Now that Google's halo is a wee bit dented some deeper reflection on what
Google might, through its search algorithms, be doing to our underlying
frameworks of knowledge--either inadvertently by structuring them in pursuit
of its commercial goals
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On 05/13/2014 12:17 AM, John Hopkins wrote:
Even so, many people here, while disliking Google for some
things, also recognize that some of the tech giants are making
real efforts on environmental issues, and some of them are trying
to at least
if one reads, the IIC -industrial internet cons. documents and others from
Cisco, GE on the IoE, one sees how openly these guys argue for 'connecting work
and people on the move' the technoutopic way towards singularity which passes
through the realisation of Internet of Free Labour in material
On May 13, 2014, at 9:45 AM, Brian Holmes bhcontinentaldr...@gmail.com wrote,
but not in this order:
Why the military robots? Why not remember Manuel De Landa's little book, War
In the Age of Intelligent Machines, which caused such a stir in its day? De
Landa predicted that computers would
Indeed Brian!
Geez, why couldn't the Stanford folks have just stuck with Pong?
Which for me suggests the rhetorical question: What is it that we searching for?
JH
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Hi nettimers,
I don't get as much time to read (let alone to post to) nettime as would like
but just wanted to underline the previous posts in this thread that made
remarks on google/Kurzweil.
Not only is the Kurzweil--other-transhumanists agenda emerging from the
private sector (for example
On 05/11/2014 03:57 PM, Geert Lovink wrote:
To me, it is somehow super clear that Facebook is evil. Not hard to
understand. But Google? Why are tensions rising so high lately around them?
Look at the tone of the Cory Doctorow blog post to Boing Boing… Don't get me
wrong. But have they
On 12/05/14 03:00, Brian Holmes wrote:
Doctorow is a somewhat different story, no? He may get himself flown
around the world to give talks, but he is not a full-fledged member of
this newly dominant class - all the more so since he seems to identify
himself at least partially with those on
Dear Geert Co
Just to add to the complexity of the picture, Google is a rather
decentralized mess - every googler I meet works on his/her own separate pet
project - so far unable as a whole to take a stand with its billion of
users against govenrments and large corporations, or for that matter
To me, it is somehow super clear that Facebook is evil. Not hard to
understand. But Google? Why are tensions rising so high lately around
them? Look at the tone of the Cory Doctorow blog post to Boing Boing?
Don't get me wrong. But have they really gone down lately? In my
humble view they are
It is very important to understand and critic the political economy of this
emerging new, and possibility of the logic it bears for building counter
class(lessness) strategies. Flos IoE(E meaning Every progressive-revolutionary
agency) political organising can counter the clash of titans by
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Hey Geert,
The tension between the Bay area elites is less interesting than the
grassroots unrest from the 'data-havenots' who are slowly starting to
feel uncomfortable with the level of governance/jurisdiction that Google
is having in their lives:
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Oh yeah... It's probably just a persons problem.. probably related to
ego and such...
What could be wrong with the not-do-evil Google?
- - the fact that they bent to entertainment industry and were the first
to accept privatized, automated
Brian, nettime,
Brian, you have said this so succinctly...the Bay Area as epicenter of this
technologicalized spread of an apparently securely spreading monoculture,
the globalization of management and work in which a giant like Google or
Twitter or Facebook defines what that is and how much it
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Hans de Zwart hans.dezw...@bof.nl wrote:
Just look at the graph displaying Google's DC lobbying investment and
you will instantly realise that Google is not the same Google that it
was a decade ago.
To chime in here: If Facebook qualifies as scary, then Google
There is also tension within Google, that is interesting to observe.
I have a friend working in Google.org, the humanitarian arm that works
on projects like apps to help find missing persons after some type of
disaster. he and others there are often extremely frustrated by what
goes on over at
Dear nettimers,
I know, there are tons of examples of this. I just want to know more what you
think of it, in particular if you happen to live there, or come from the Bay
Area.
To me, it is somehow super clear that Facebook is evil. Not hard to understand.
But Google? Why are tensions rising
I don't think this is a Bay Area thing. Google, Schmidt, and even Cory,
operate at a supranational level, traveling from place to place and speaking
and working all over the globe, without any regard to national borders or local
cultures. They live in cyberpsace, literally. I'm sympathetic
On 05/11/2014 01:38 PM, Michael Weisman wrote:
I don't think this is a Bay Area thing. Google, Schmidt, and even
Cory, operate at a supranational level, traveling from place to place
and speaking and working all over the globe, without any regard to
national borders or local cultures.
Yet
As the saying goes, where you stand has a lot to do with
where you sit. Outside looking in? Vulnerable to the
politics of envy. Inside looking out? Vulnerable to
the politics of manifest destiny, personal edition.
--dan
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