Re: nettime Internet Freedom and Post-Snowden Global Internet Governance

2013-09-26 Thread dan mcquillan

hi michael

you might find one of bruce schneier's recent
guardian pieces interesting: 'The US government has
betrayed the internet. We need to take it back'
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betray
ed-internet-nsa-spying

it resonates with yours in many ways, but from a different starting
ipoint .e. internet engineering.

fwiw we'll be holding a festival of crypto at goldsmiths college at
the end of november which will try to walk the line between discourse
 tech; it'll be practical (like a cryptoparty) but also aiming
squarely at the wider field of internet freedom.

best
dan


On 24 September 2013 23:37, michael gurstein gurst...@gmail.com wrote:


 With links

 http://gurstein.wordpress.com/2013/09/24/internet-freedom-and-post-snowden-g
 lobal-internet-governance/

 http://tinyurl.com/n3onw87




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Re: nettime Review of Gregory Sholette's Dark Matter - corrected

2013-09-26 Thread John Hopkins

We go on picking the rags, but every now and again, this other social


snip...


sourcing. The archive has split open. We are its dead capital. It is
the dawn of the dead.

This blatant appeal to the use-value of our necrophilia, artistic
waste, the products of our labor and time, runs throughout an
historical text, alternately conscious of its own limitations and
brilliantly pervasive in its political critique and arts research.


Molly -- this resonates with the idea of a bio-system where there is an excess 
of information -- that is, too much genetic diversity -- such that the need to 
procreate does not sit so heavily on individual organisms and that 'creative' 
energy can be expressed in non-essential forms. (Think of the myriad anecdotal 
ways that procreating changes the (perhaps your!) expression of 'artistic' 
energy).  This situation, the opposite to, for example, needing to breed -- 12 
children so that 2 survive to sustain a clan system -- may only arise where/when 
there is a surfeit of energy available. It is (merely) one expression of energy 
glut. It will correct itself in time ... fluff of many sorts will dissipate in 
the entropic decline of the post-hydrocarbon world.


jh

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Re: nettime The secret financial market only robots can see

2013-09-26 Thread Chad Scoville
As someone intimately involved in this area for some time, and also privy 
enough to the dialogue in the academic non-practitioner space, in addition to 
the professional space, I am always amused to the extent with which 
electronic/hft/algo trading is misinterpreted and in many instances blatantly 
misunderstood. I know for many participants in this list, this subject is very 
controversial and hits very close to home - hence out of respect for a 
civilized discouse on the subject, I think generally before someone quotes 
'NANEX' again, we would all do well to remember that overall having a debate 
about the ethics surrounding degrees of speculation in markets is highy ludic. 
The same technical parallax we use to communicate via nettime is also the 
mechanism utilized for deployment of sophistcated trading models.

Machines being leveraged to generate resources is a legacy of our civilization 
- and arguing about the ethics of this specific incarnation of capital is 
reactionary and we need to do better. The conversation should be less emotional 
about the implications of this systemically, and instead how much novelty gets 
generated in culture as a afterimage of electonic market making. Robots trading 
was a forgone conclusion when NYSE SuperDOT came on the scene. Earlier, Reuter 
revolutions infomation arbitrage with the uilization of passerger pigeons to 
exploit data leakage between markets.

I'm pleased to see that Brian Holmes stepped in to comment, as I respect his 
views on things nettime. However, I think we need to sharper with our critical 
analysis of this aesthetic and not dismiss this simply because the old media 
latches onto it as a point of controversy.

/chadscoville
/www.riftrouter.cx


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