Re: nettime Claire Bishop's Game: Subversive Compliance

2015-06-24 Thread Griffis, Ryan
Thanks for sharing these thoughts on Bishop, David. However, given your critique, the details of which I agree with completely, I’m wondering why you consider her writing worth engaging at all. Honestly, I find it little more than reactionary/disciplinary boundary policing. It’s actually

Re: nettime Claire Bishop’s Game: Subversive

2015-06-24 Thread Will Jackson
Claire Bishop's radical compliance is most compellingly argued for in the fo= llowing passage: the saga suggests why a new term was required that retained an aesthetic d= imension whilst dispensing with much of the onerous historical baggage. This certain historical amnesia is obscured by

Re: nettime Claire Bishop’s Game: Sub

2015-06-24 Thread Armin Medosch
Hi, it is indeed perplexing that Bishop manages to write a pretty good book about participation whilst leaving out any mentioning of media art or digital art or whatever you call it. I do not concur however, that this is the main problem. It is equally problematic, as David does, to perpetuate

Re: nettime Claire Bishop’s Game: Subversive

2015-06-24 Thread Will Jackson
Claire Bishop's radical compliance is most compellingly argued for in the fo= llowing passage: the saga suggests why a new term was required that retained an aesthetic d= imension whilst dispensing with much of the onerous historical baggage. This certain historical amnesia is obscured by

Re: nettime Claire Bishop’s Game: S

2015-06-24 Thread David Garcia
Thanks Will for your detailed resonse its much appreciated.. just a couple of initial points. Bishop's narrative sticks to the most concrete manipulations of sensory experience - representation, sculpture, and performance. There is an important exception (and a brief departure from Bishop's

nettime Out now: In the Facebook Aquarium—The Resist

2015-06-24 Thread Geert Lovink
Dear nettimers, on this day of the Facebook Farewell Party, which will be held tonight in the National Theater in Amsterdam on Leidseplein our Institute of Network Cultures is very proud to present the release of: In the Facebook Aquarium—The Resistable Rise of Anarcho-Capitalism by Ippolita