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Florian Cramer:
I'd be very interested to hear why a punk band wouldn't want to
release music under a free license.
For example, because it doesn't want - for political reasons - its
music to end up on Spotify, Google or similar corporate
Hello jaromil,
First and foremost there is a confusion between the terms art
and culture, which is created already in Ozgur's open letter and
oddly whipped up by Aymeric. Art production is quite different from
cultural production.
This is mined territory as there are no whatsoever
Great examples from Florian Cramer. Having run an indie record company
and music publishing house for 32 years, I could add that punk
attitude is something that extends far beyond any musical genre (punk
included) and that incorporates a disdain from any representative of
jurisprudence. The latter
On 06/14/2014 02:20 PM, Florian Cramer wrote:
For example, because it doesn't want - for political reasons - its
music to end up on Spotify, Google or similar corporate services,
against which free licenses provide no means of intervention.
I agree, Google co represent a version of
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014, Florian Cramer wrote:
The punk band example is relatively harmless. For software
developers, any kind of free license (free according to the criteria
of FSF and Debian, respectively Open Source according to the OSI
criteria) gives no whatsoever means to prevent that the
On Sat, 14 Jun 2014, Florian Cramer wrote:
The punk band example is relatively harmless. For software
developers, any kind of free license (free according to the criteria
of FSF and Debian, respectively Open Source according to the OSI
criteria) gives no whatsoever means to prevent that the
dear Florian,
Thanks for your criticism, it helps making this discussion resonate.
Yet I see some discrepancies in your reasoning.
First and foremost there is a confusion between the terms art and
culture, which is created already in Ozgur's open letter and oddly
whipped up by Aymeric. Art
Rob Myers said :
Florian Cramer:
If, for example, a punk band would decide that it is not releasing
its recordings under a free license - for which it might have sound
political arguments
I'd be very interested to hear why a punk band wouldn't want to
release music under a free
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Florian Cramer:
I disagree with this letter since I am working for a small cultural
venue (WORM in Rotterdam) myself and see a discrepancy between good
intentions and not-so-good practical consequences.
First of all: the release of work as
I disagree with this letter since I am working for a small cultural venue
(WORM in Rotterdam) myself and see a discrepancy between good intentions
and not-so-good practical consequences.
First of all: the release of work as free culture (according to the
standards of freedomdefined.org or the FSF
Agreed! But I'm very surprised that you didn't quote the Free Art
Licence (written in July 2000).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Art_License
http://artlibre.org/licence/lal/en/
Olivier
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2014-06-09
Thanks,
That's exactly what we have been up to...
However, it would be lovely to get some help from the academics out
there who say they are into the type of things that we do, but rarely
include it in their writings.
There's some heavy political stuff going on at the moment in UK -
dear Ozgur,
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014, ozgur k. wrote:
a free letter to cultural institutions,
please do not fund/exhibit/distribute/promote any non-free cultural
works.(see freedomdefined.org for the definition of free cultural
works)
please approach your audience as peers and give them the
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dear nettimers,
thanks to olivier, jaromil and marc for responding to this so qucikly,
which encourages me to elaborate on the issue more.
i find free art license of the copyleft attiude very important since
it is (AFAIK) the first and consistent
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