Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-21 Thread Mark Haack (werk55.de)
mobile-broadband-provider-info On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 12:15 +0100, Mark Haack wrote: Hi - Original Message - From: Marcel Holtmann mar...@holtmann.org To: Antti Kaijanmäki antti.kaijanm...@nomovok.com Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 16:02 -0600 schrieb Denis Kenzior: I've seen this happen on the Freerunner. Immediately after registering COPS returns Cingular, 5 minutes later it will return ATT. Yes, if the EONS tables are complete and not damaged (seen that a lot on various SIMs), it will

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-21 Thread Dan Williams
On Thu, 2010-01-21 at 17:59 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 20.01.2010, 16:02 -0600 schrieb Denis Kenzior: I've seen this happen on the Freerunner. Immediately after registering COPS returns Cingular, 5 minutes later it will return ATT. Yes, if the EONS tables are

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-20 Thread Dan Williams
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 12:15 +0100, Mark Haack wrote: Hi - Original Message - From: Marcel Holtmann mar...@holtmann.org To: Antti Kaijanmäki antti.kaijanm...@nomovok.com Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Augmenting mobile

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-20 Thread Denis Kenzior
Hi Dan, On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:15 +0100, Marcel Holtmann wrote: Hi Antti, you can't trust the network name string returned by AT+COPS since there are so many factors coming into play here. So first of all you

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-20 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 16:02 -0600, Denis Kenzior wrote: Hi Dan, On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:15 +0100, Marcel Holtmann wrote: Hi Antti, you can't trust the network name string returned by AT+COPS since there

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2010-01-20 Thread Denis Kenzior
Hi Dan, Fully agreed, the COPS name is junk, and on properly implemented hardware the COPS name can actually change once the network performs a NITZ update.  Unfortunately there's no standard way of knowing what name the hardware is reporting, the one burned into firmware or taken from

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-24 Thread Mark Haack
Hi Antti Hi Marcel - Original Message - From: Marcel Holtmann mar...@holtmann.org To: Antti Kaijanmäki antti.kaijanm...@nomovok.com Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org; denk...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info Hi

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 00:05 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: * dial prefix per country Do you mean the international dial code like +1 for the US, etc? We could do this. Yes, that's what I mean. At least in the case of the timezone db, I think there's better places to put

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Antti, Do you mean the international dial code like +1 for the US, etc? We could do this. Yes, that's what I mean. At least in the case of the timezone db, I think there's better places to put that. I realize not all platforms use glibc, but I have to believe that even

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 10:30 +0100, Marcel Holtmann wrote: Hi Antti, you can't trust the network name string returned by AT+COPS since there are so many factors coming into play here. So first of all you have the names stored in the modem itself, then the names stored on the SIM card and then

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 11:41 +0200, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: In this situation we simply have a miss in database search and user is presented with all the available configuration choices. Can you provide some real life example where the long alphabetical form is misleading and would cause

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Haack
Hi - Original Message - From: Marcel Holtmann mar...@holtmann.org To: Antti Kaijanmäki antti.kaijanm...@nomovok.com Cc: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:30 AM Subject: Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info Hi Antti, Do you mean

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 11:54 +0200, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 11:41 +0200, Antti Kaijanmäki wrote: In this situation we simply have a miss in database search and user is presented with all the available configuration choices. Can you provide some real life example where

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Haack
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Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 15:24 +0100, Mark Haack wrote: Hi here is a live sample from Berlin. Huawei K3520 data stick + Base SIM. As you can see MVNO Base is not shown in broadband info (E-Plus) snip at+cops? +COPS: 0,0,BASE DE,2 OK This is exactly what I want to see. You have bought

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Antti, you can't trust the network name string returned by AT+COPS since there are so many factors coming into play here. So first of all you have the names stored in the modem itself, then the names stored on the SIM card and then the potential updates over the network. Every hardware

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Antti Kaijanmäki
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:15 +0100, Marcel Holtmann wrote: Hi Antti, you can't trust the network name string returned by AT+COPS since there are so many factors coming into play here. So first of all you have the names stored in the modem itself, then the names stored on the SIM card

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-23 Thread Marcel Holtmann
Hi Antti, you can't trust the network name string returned by AT+COPS since there are so many factors coming into play here. So first of all you have the names stored in the modem itself, then the names stored on the SIM card and then the potential updates over the network. Every

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-22 Thread Dan Williams
On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 11:25 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Hi folks, some guys and me are working on the freesmartphone.org projects and recently I stumbled over mobile-broadband-provider-info. As among the network/phone crowd there is a great need for such a central database, we

Re: Augmenting mobile-broadband-provider-info

2009-11-22 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Sonntag, den 22.11.2009, 14:56 -0800 schrieb Dan Williams: On Sun, 2009-11-22 at 11:25 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Hi folks, some guys and me are working on the freesmartphone.org projects and recently I stumbled over mobile-broadband-provider-info. As among the