going back to starlink vs ftth for rdof, 100/20mbps down/uplink
throughput is not the barrier, but stable latency and jitter are still
challenging. avoid very long landing ground stations to home point of
presence tunnel and better inter satellite routing are the key. of
course, from fcc's view,
The people getting the subsidies would be the subscribers. They wouldn't be
paying for rocket launches direction, but for lower subscription prices in some
areas. (and indirectly paying for launches)
Note that Elon commented on this that it was the competition, not SpaceX that
lobbied for
I agree Dave! Sometimes I find it difficult to drag myself away from the dopamine machine aka cell phone (credit for that phrase to Ben at epsilontheory.com), but I always appreciate it when I do.
-- Tanya :-)
On 12/15/2023 5:36 PM EST
I tried gently to shut down the vitriol on this thread yesterday. In
general I prefer we talk about ideas, and not people.
Ideally I would like this to be a place where people can
constructively disagree, and I have encouraged since the start to
outreach to people (male or female) that might be
Elon Musk can afford to take starlink to markey without the government
subsidies. It's past time to stop subsidizing the richest person on the planet.
Bob
On Dec 16, 2023, 1:44 PM, at 1:44 PM, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain
wrote:
>When someone is speaking with a C-suit of the 25Gbps ISP that
When someone is speaking with a C-suit of the 25Gbps ISP that still
believes "in over-provisioning. QoS/QoE is for those ISPs which have less
bandwidth than they need" (paraphrasing) - that particular someone knows
that there is still SO much work in front of us.
*trying to bring this thread back
And the excuse for not hiring women in the Criminal Division was they have to
deal with all these tough types, and women aren't up to that. And I was amazed.
I said, have you seen the lawyers at legal aid who are representing these tough
types? They're all women.
People ask me sometimes, when
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The president who ran Harvey Mudd College had to fix their computer
science problem of a 90% to 10% male to female ratio. She was asked,
"What's the goal?" She responded, "It should reflect to population so
50/50." The others said, "Be realistic."
She was and she got it to 50/50 where it
to be very clear, I am in no way saying that anyone's (let alone saying women's)
views are not desired. I think a diversity of views if extremely valuable.
I just get my back up when people say things like 'there need to more X in
charge' (for any value of X that refers to a characteristic
Hi,
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 01:46:06PM +0100, Frantisek Borsik via Starlink wrote:
> The same is true for missing/loosing support for FWA in the grand/funding
> schemes: all the arguments thrown around by fiber cheerleaders are based
> on bandwidth (at best) or "speed" (in most cases) or some
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 2:13 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
wrote:
>
> This GPT(human)bot was responding to the engineered prompt: >>why do you
> think telehealth won't work over LEO services?
>
> As it's Friday, this GPT(human)bot bandwidth has been fully utilized for the
> week. Our servers
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This is principally a male dominated list, and I in general assume
that the public debate over fiber, bandwidth, etc, etc skews heavily
male also.
It is a very good set of questions to ask about how the internet
should be structured to best meet the needs of both sexes, and how
that has changed
This GPT(human)bot was responding to the engineered prompt: >>why do you
think telehealth won't work over LEO services?
As it's Friday, this GPT(human)bot bandwidth has been fully utilized for
the week. Our servers will be back-on line come Monday.
Wishing everyone (human or machine) a
what does this have to do with starlink vs FTTH?
I don't know or care the sex of the other people in this discussion, I could
make guesses based on the listed names for some, but by no means all, but why
would I?
This discussion is open to anyone.
David Lang
On Fri, 15 Dec 2023, rjmcmahon
I don't disagree with anything that you say below, but the discussion was on the
topic of starlink vs fiber, with the person I was responding to claiming that we
needed to have women in charge of the Internet companies because of telehealth
as well.
I'm a remote worker and VERY aware of how
There’s good evidence that physical health can be done over LEO as long as
it isn’t low latency dependent. Of course our illustrious listserv founder
Dave Taht will be quick to point out high latency is also found via
ground-based connections too.
That said, there is still a lot of research
I surveyed some female telehealth providers. There are a lot of
subtleties required to make telehealth work well for the providers.
Their knowledge level is quite fascinating.
I don't see their voices here on these boards either. In education, the
absence of something being taught is called
why do you think telehealth won't work over LEO services?
I've used it personally.
Even if women use telehealth more than men, that doesn't say that women have any
particular advantage in moving the bits around that make telehealth possible.
David Lang
On Fri, 15 Dec 2023, rjmcmahon wrote:
Women are the primary users and providers of telehealth services. They
are using broadband to care for our population. They also run most of
the addiction services across our country, whatever the addiction may
be. So gender actually matters. Ask them as providers. Telehealth
doesn't work over
who exactly do you think is calling for there to be no Internet access? and what
in the world does the sex of individuals have to do with shipping bits around?
Starlink (and hopefully it's future competitors) provides a way to get Internet
service to everyone without having to run fiber to
Hi All,
We're trying to modernize America. LBJ helped do it for electricity
decades ago. It's our turn to step up to the plate. Tele-health and
distance learning requires us to do so. There is so much to follow.
A reminder what many women went through before LBJ showed up. I'm
skeptical a
On Fri, 15 Dec 2023, Sebastian Moeller via Starlink wrote:
Hi Frantisek,
On Dec 15, 2023, at 13:46, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain
wrote:
Thus, technically speaking, one would like the advantages of satcom such
as starlink, to be at least 5gbit/s in 10 years time, to overcome the
'tangled
Hi Frantisek,
> On Dec 15, 2023, at 13:46, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain
> wrote:
>
> Thus, technically speaking, one would like the advantages of satcom such
> as starlink, to be at least 5gbit/s in 10 years time, to overcome the
> 'tangled fiber' problem.
>
> No, not really. Starlink was
>
> Thus, technically speaking, one would like the advantages of satcom such
> as starlink, to be at least 5gbit/s in 10 years time, to overcome the
> 'tangled fiber' problem.
No, not really. Starlink was about to address the issue of digital divide -
delivering internet to those 640k locations,
Thanks, Nathan.
I’m adding Brendan’s dissent as well:
https://x.com/brendancarrfcc/status/1734696706795778126
All the best,
Frank
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Hi folks,
(Apologies in advance to non-Americans or anyone who doesn't care about
American home broadband policy! Please feel free to immediately delete!)
I don't want to get overly political on this mailing list, but my statement
on this topic is a matter of public record:
If you have time now by any chance, Brendan Carr is speaking on Spaces, on
Twitter:
https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1mnxepDgvLvJX
All the best,
Frank
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FCC's staff continues to shrink. 1420-or-so employees in 2022, 1755-or-so
in 2012, 1952-or-so in 2004. So about a 25% reduction over the last twenty
years. There are several good people there among the staff, however they
also face an increasing number of tasks and demands with less resources.
Thanks, Robert. Exactly what I meant. Therefore I added NN list, because
Nathan was engaging with us there, and with Dave (me and some others, to my
knowledge) either directly or via his staffers and he really wanted to
catch up on tech things that are the culprits of Net Neutrality
(bufferbloat.)
I think this common in that appointment of commissioners go through a political
process. The FCC has a technology group, too. When I worked with them about 8
years ago, they had skilled researchers on staff and a highly skilled director.
They asked good questions about engineering decisions,
I would love for Nathan to be here with us, and comment on that :-) so I
will add NN list as well.
All the best,
Frank
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