Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-18 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Nnagain
Sebastian Moeller via Nnagain > Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 7:24 AM > To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this > time! > Cc: Sebastian Moeller; Ronan Pigott > Subject: Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat? > > Hi Jason, > &g

Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-18 Thread Dick Roy via Nnagain
m: Nnagain [mailto:nnagain-boun...@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of Sebastian Moeller via Nnagain Sent: Monday, December 18, 2023 7:24 AM To: Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time! Cc: Sebastian Moeller; Ronan Pigott Subject: Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Buffer

Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-18 Thread Sebastian Moeller via Nnagain
Hi Jason, during the Covid19 era, the EU issued clarifications that even throttling a complete class like streaming video might be within reasonable network management. The only stipulations wer this needs to happen only to allow arguably more important traffic classes (like work-from home

Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-18 Thread Livingood, Jason via Nnagain
> Misapplied concepts of network neutrality is one of the things that killed > fq codel for DOCSIS 3.1 I am not so sure this was the case - I think it was just that a different AQM was selected. DOCSIS 3.1 includes the DOCSIS-PIE AQM - see https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8034.html and

Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-16 Thread Ronan Pigott via Nnagain
Hey Dave, That's good to hear. Thanks for the reply and thanks for the cake! Cheers, Ronan ___ Nnagain mailing list Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain

Re: [NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-15 Thread Dave Taht via Nnagain
On Fri, Dec 15, 2023 at 3:12 PM Ronan Pigott via Nnagain wrote: > > Hi, > > I read the recent NOI response and it sparked my interest in the relationship > between Net Neutrality and bufferbloat. I also found [1] which makes it seem > Net Neutrality is an obstacle to solving bufferbloat in the

[NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

2023-12-15 Thread Ronan Pigott via Nnagain
Hi, I read the recent NOI response and it sparked my interest in the relationship between Net Neutrality and bufferbloat. I also found [1] which makes it seem Net Neutrality is an obstacle to solving bufferbloat in the US, at least. I'm just curious about the legal obstacles to bufferbloat