[NSP] Re: Shuttle Pipes for Sale

2012-11-22 Thread Barry Say
Sadly Julian, the link you have posted requires a password. Barry On 11/22/2012 02:53 PM, Julian Templeman wrote: I have a set of shuttle pipes that are surplus to requirements. The shuttle drones are by Dave Shaw (see http://www.daveshaw.co.uk/Shuttle_Pipes/_shuttle_pipes.html) and they have

[NSP] Re: NSP spotted on ebay UK

2012-02-16 Thread Barry Say
First of all, I must apologise to Anthony for sending my first reply to him rather than the list. This was a finger slip. What I wrote was: As far as I can see, these pipes bear none of the features I would expect in Hedworth pipes. In particular, Anthony Robb wrote: His style is

[NSP] Re: ebay Northumbrian bagpipe (not)

2011-12-06 Thread Barry Say
I have reported this to ebay as a misleading title. If others wish to do so this might not be a bad idea. I have not yet been able to tell them what is wrong, it is a rather tick-box approach, but I will see what happens. Barry John Dally wrote: Some sort of euro-pipe, very expensive for

[NSP] Re: 4mm or 6mm staples

2011-11-27 Thread Barry Say
Anthony Robb wrote: - 4mm internal, 4.75mm external diameters. That is as near as d*mn*t 5/32 id and 3/16 od which is the size of brass tube I use. So no argument there. Personally, I suspect this fuel tube originates in the US where, thankfully, the traditional sizes are alive and

[NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle

2011-11-16 Thread Barry Say
Hi all, I agree with most of what has been said on this thread. I only restricted my advice to reed opening because I only wanted to mention clipping the reed when all else had been tried. It is after all irreversible, unless someone has found a way of gluing the bits back on? There was one

[NSP] Re: flat chanter in the middle

2011-11-13 Thread Barry Say
Hi Kevin Do you know what pitch you are tuning at. Is it the same as before? Do you know what pressure you're playing at. Is it the same as before? You could have a reed which naturally gives a flatter d . My guess would be to open the reed a fraction and increase your playing pressure

[NSP] Re: (no subject)

2011-09-06 Thread Barry Say
gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote: The inspiration develops from the next day onwards but is relieved with antihistamines My first major hay-fever attack came on a school trip to Chesters fort. Although I had been a sniffely and sneezy youth up to that point, the streaming eyes and

[NSP] Re: Harvest tunes

2011-09-05 Thread Barry Say
Seasons? :) Richard. On 03/09/2011 21:19, Barry Say wrote: It has been reported that when Jack Armstrong appeared on the radio, the producers encouraged (required?) him to provide Northumbrian titles for the tunes he used. Whether or not this is true, why not take existing tunes which you like

[NSP] Re: Harvest tunes

2011-09-03 Thread Barry Say
It has been reported that when Jack Armstrong appeared on the radio, the producers encouraged (required?) him to provide Northumbrian titles for the tunes he used. Whether or not this is true, why not take existing tunes which you like to play and give them 'Harvest' titles. I heard an

[NSP] Re: Slowing down tunes

2010-11-06 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, I am a fully paid up licenseholder for the amazingslowdowner from Roni music and can thoroughly recommend it. It can change pitch and speed over a wide range and maintain an acceptable tone-quality. - More on this later I've had a look at seventhstring and it seems very interesting.

[NSP] Re: Celtic Zone - Archie Fisher's Border Music

2010-09-24 Thread Barry Say
Hi Folks, Just wanted to let you know that the current edition of BBC Radio Scotland's archive programme the Celtic Zone features a compilation of programmes put together by folk musician Archie Fisher. The items are dedicated to the music and culture of the Borderlands between

[NSP] Re: NSP and Hardanger Fiddle?

2010-09-11 Thread Barry Say
Some years ago, Joe Crane used to turn up at the Chantry in Morpeth towards the end of the evening with a pair of Hardanger fiddles. When we repaired to the local hostelry after the meeting (The Chambers or The Joiners as I remember), Joe would induce Colin to play one of them. We didnt play

[NSP] Re: Bag cloth

2010-08-12 Thread Barry Say
Does anyone remember a thread from the distant past when a now well-respected piper suggested playing in one's skin was a good way of discovering bellows leaks? Barry On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 10:06:00 +0100 Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote: On 12 Aug 2010, at 09:55, Richard York

[NSP] Re: Parnell's March

2010-06-07 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, There is of course a great deal of truth in Anthony's post, but notating hornpipes in 12/8 just doesn't do it for me. The 2:1 ratio is certainly a good guide. 3:1 feels more scottish to me. The problem I found with Parnell's march in 6/8 is that when I see 3 quavers in a 6/8 rhythm I

[NSP] Pipe cases (again)

2010-04-09 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, I have just taken delivery of my new pipe case. It is a 24 Heavy duty toolbag by Kanga with a nicely reinforced bottom. Such a case requires putting the pipes in protective tubes (drainpipe) but I have used a Kanga leather toolbag successfully for years. I cannot vouch for its

[NSP] Re: pipe cases

2010-02-17 Thread Barry Say
the case which keeps them a lot safer. Barry Say colin wrote: Mine came with my pipes from Bill Hedworth and is plywood covered with green leatherette with metal corners. Mine's still fine and now in it's 36th year (made 1974 or thereabouts) although the leatherette has lifted on few corners over

[NSP] Re: kipper box

2010-02-10 Thread Barry Say
Hi Chris, Is this anything to do with your vested interests (or lack of them). (See other thread) Barry christopher.bi...@ec.europa.eu wrote: Would someone care to admit to a close enough acquaintance with a female baroque violinist to safely enquire about her knicker elastic? I'm

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Barry Say
Francis Wood wrote: Also is pitch purely dependent on tension? The danger with such a question is that one might receive a full and comprehensive answer, which in such cases is usually to be regretted! This is one case where I think the answer is simpler than one might expect. Quoting

[NSP] Re: NSP duet with other instruments

2010-02-10 Thread Barry Say
Gibbons, John wrote: Barry said If only pipes were so simple The formula for strings: f = (1/2L) * sqrt (T/mu) neglects all sorts of effects, such as the bow or the finger, the rigidity of the string, the speed of tension waves in the string, etc. And we haven't thought of the motion of

[NSP] Re: Gaelic Pronunciation

2010-02-05 Thread Barry Say
Paul Gretton wrote: But then: de gustibus non est disputandum as we say in Maastricht (pronounced disgusting buses full of disputing nuns). Mr Nasty Or as they say on Tyneside after a heavy night in the Bigg Market. sic transit gloria mundi (pronounced Gloria was rather ill while

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-26 Thread Barry Say
Hi Richard, Excuse me while I mount my hobby-horse. The size of the bag relative to the body shape of the player can have a crucial effect on the perceived difficulty of playing the pipes. I observed the posture of many players in piping meetings and I came to the conclusion that those who

[NSP] Re: Warning: scam

2010-01-21 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, These guys are truly prolific. Over 17,000 titles at Amazon and 5,000 at Blackwell. I have written to both. Barry On 21 Jan 2010 at 10:35, Matt Seattle wrote: I found the following on Amazon for a hefty price - Music of Northumbria: Northumbria, Folk music, Border ballad,

[NSP] Newbiggin Session

2010-01-20 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, this mainly for those within easy reach of Newbiggin by the Sea Northumberland Just a reminder about the session at Newbiggin Sailing Club Tomorrow night (Thursday) 8.00 pm More details from me if required Barry To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-06 Thread Barry Say
Yes, we need Palatinum pipes made in the exclave of Bedlingtonshire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedlingtonshire Those seeking enlightrnment could investigate: Counties (Detached Parts) Act 1839 Barry On 6 Jan 2010 at 18:06, Richard York wrote: Palatinate Pipes? tim rolls BT

[NSP] Re: NSP

2010-01-05 Thread Barry Say
Ii is one of the quirks of our wonderful language that the names of our counties can also serve as adjectives. Think of Durham, Yorkshire, Norfolk etc. Whereas France /French Germany / German and so on Barry On 5 Jan 2010 at 20:48, Richard York wrote: Strange, isn't it? You're

[NSP] Re: NSP item on BBC Radio 4

2010-01-01 Thread Barry Say
Well spotted Francis. Thanks for bringing that to our attention. Adding to Alistair Anderson's conjectures on the development of the bagpipes, the most convincing story I have heard is that when the Crusaders travelled to what has been described as 'The Holy Land', they discovered people

[NSP] Newbiggin Session

2009-12-14 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, There will be another piping session this Thursday at the Newbiggin by the Sea Sailing Club, this Thursday at 8 oclock. Contact me offlist if you require further details. Barry To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Wannies Yomp

2009-11-29 Thread Barry Say
Hi all, Once again a few (or more - the more the merrier) hardy souls will scale the heights of the Wannies Crag on Boxing Day (Sat 26th December) to play pipes, consume Bacon Butties, phone friends, admire the view and / or curse the weather The Barrasford is not available for the afternoon

[NSP] Re: [nsp] file (Fenwick)

2009-11-01 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, Some time ago I psode the question, If I were a 19th Century piping teacher and the only book of music I had available was Peacock's tunes, could I grade the tunes so that the pupil could start with the easiest and progress through more difficult tunes until the whole book was within

[NSP] NSP] Re: Cut and Dry Dolly

2009-09-16 Thread Barry Say
On 16 Sep 2009 at 15:11, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote: But no light on what the title meant - until someone turns up some song lyrics, we are probably left with guesswork as the best way of working out that one. Lyrics to a different tune: Fresh Aw cum frrae Sandgate Street

[NSP] NSP] Re: Cut and Dry Dolly

2009-09-16 Thread Barry Say
On 16 Sep 2009 at 15:11, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote: But no light on what the title meant - until someone turns up some song lyrics, we are probably left with guesswork as the best way of working out that one. Lyrics to a different tune: Fresh Aw cum frrae Sandgate Street

[NSP] NSP] Re: Cut and Dry Dolly

2009-09-16 Thread Barry Say
On 16 Sep 2009 at 15:11, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote: But no light on what the title meant - until someone turns up some song lyrics, we are probably left with guesswork as the best way of working out that one. Lyrics to a different tune: Fresh Aw cum frrae Sandgate Street

[NSP] Re: Tune title spelling

2009-08-19 Thread Barry Say
Hi All Personally I wouldn't bother trying to put exotic characters in e-mail. They only work if the recipient is using the same system to read the messages as the sender is using to compose them. Look at the trouble we with get with £ signs. Barry On 19 Aug 2009 at 10:02, The Red Goblin

[NSP] Decriminalising Music

2009-08-04 Thread Barry Say
Thiis is one for UK residents. There is a move afoot to relax the music licensing laws to read more and sign a petition go to http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/livemusicevents/ We are past the closing date but 'signatures' are still being accepted. Barry To get on or off this list see list

[NSP] (Fwd) Re: In the light of recent postings ...

2009-05-23 Thread Barry Say
will return to the list when this outburst is over. Barry Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Kathryn Tickell - Pipes Teacher.

2009-04-16 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, I have been waiting for an opportune moment to write this posting for several years. I think this is an appropriate time, before answering some of Anthony Robb's points, particularly the points concerning Kathryn Kathryn was a tutor at the Forkworks Adult Winter Workout held at

[NSP] Re: Billy Pigg

2009-04-14 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, On 14 Apr 2009 at 12:43, Anthony Robb wrote: Hello Adrian Thanks for that. I'm new to this debate and find it all fascinating. You have obviously been out of touch with the latest developments in piping for several years. We all knew of Chris Ormston's preference for the

[NSP] Re: When did a rant become a Rant?

2009-04-06 Thread Barry Say
Interested parties may car to visit: www.dsl.ac.uk For a Scots meaning for rant. Barry On 6 Apr 2009 at 9:37, Richard York wrote: Thanks Matt all. Best wishes, Richard. Matt Seattle wrote: Some strathspeys have 'Rant' in the title also, e.g. Rothiemurchus' Rant, Carrick's Rant.

[NSP] Re: J Allen (and Rants)

2009-03-13 Thread Barry Say
Dont Forget Jimmy's younger brother - Woody B On 13 Mar 2009 at 9:59, Helen Fish wrote: Jimmy Allen was the husband of Babs, of course. Doh, don't you guys know anything? Helen To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Tune Phrasing / Rants / Reels / Polkas

2009-03-13 Thread Barry Say
played a tone higher and bears a remarkable similarity to The Tomtit Reel ascribed to Archie Dagg. Barry Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Midi, rhythm, popping, agogics, psycho

2009-03-11 Thread Barry Say
On 11 Mar 2009 at 18:39, Robert Greef wrote: So some aural illusions at work, it would seem. Anyone for psychoacoustics? Robert I think so. When we hear a sound and it stops, our brains retain a memory of the sound so that when we hear a subsequent sound we can compare the two and hear

[NSP] Response to Chris

2009-03-11 Thread Barry Say
On 11 Mar 2009 at 19:39, Chris Ormston wrote: Other volume differences between notes on recordings may merely be due to the fact that the sound comes out of various points on the chanter, holes are different sizes (but I don't want to go there!!!) and it is difficult to position

[NSP] Re: Measureing Tips

2009-03-10 Thread Barry Say
Hi Malcolm, Welcome to the wonderful world of pipemaking. The question of the reference point for tone holes is an old argument. Colin Ross finds it convenient to measure from the top of the chanter. Makers who hold the chanter in a chuck prefer to measure from the shoulder. The two are

[NSP] Music to learn from

2009-03-10 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, If you want a good idea of how tunes might be played try Pauline Cato's Northumbrian Choice. Book and 2 CDs available at http://www.mally.com/details.asp?id=52 and other outlets. The main disadvantage is that it is recorded on concert G pipes. However, if one also obtains a copy of

[NSP] Re: malcom's final solution

2009-03-08 Thread Barry Say
On 8 Mar 2009 at 12:23, Dave S wrote: Barry, There used to be a site run by Gerit Raith having plans for a cornemuse in F (alto kortholt) but I can't seem to track it down -- if you are interested in this windcap instrument I may be a ble to dig out the plans from an archive I have

[NSP] Re: malcom's final solution

2009-03-06 Thread Barry Say
I am writing a reply to Malcolm's message, but in the meantime, I have a related question which I hope that readers of this list can help with. The Northumbrian Smallpipes are unusual in that they have a very small bore compared to other instruments. Also, the tone holes are often the same

[NSP] Copyright issues

2009-01-15 Thread Barry Say
I think there are some worthwhile discussions to be had here. Since it is a further topic for discussion I have posted with a new subject to avoid confusion with the Jimmy Allan Topic which grinds on. I agree with most of what Dru has said, but I believe the situation in the USA is rather

[NSP] The NSPlist and the NPS

2009-01-15 Thread Barry Say
Along with the rest of the list I received Alan Corkett's last message and I will respond to the details later but there is on point I feel I must raise lest a false impression is given. I have been a member of this list for many years and I do not consider that my election as Magazine editor

[NSP] Re: Jimmy Allen

2009-01-15 Thread Barry Say
Some years ago, I would have held the opinion that it was possible that tunes we play now could be 200 years old but had only been written down or published in the last 50 years. In the case of Northumbrian and Scottish music I now think this is very unlikely. We have a wealth of published

[NSP] Re: Reel of t

2009-01-14 Thread Barry Say
On 13 Jan 2009 at 17:52, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote: Are you saying these words 'Come gie's a sang Montgomery cried ...' fit the 'Reel of Tullochgorum' tune (they do) or the ex-strathspey that's found in Peacock (they fit that too). In what follows I will refer to the tune

[NSP] Re: Piper print

2009-01-14 Thread Barry Say
On 14 Jan 2009 at 9:43, tim rolls BT wrote: Hi Richard, I haven't got my physics head on this morning, but would this be anything to do with the fact that many painters used a sort of camera obscura device to project the model onto a canvas, then did a quick sketch round the projected

[NSP] Re: Reel of t

2009-01-14 Thread Barry Say
On 14 Jan 2009 at 10:28, Matt Seattle wrote: Those words were written for the old tune of Tullochgorum (not 'Jimmy Allan'). Hi Matt, Are you aware of any historic publication which contains both the words and music. The song has eight lines to a verse. I would tend to try and fit them to

[NSP] Re: Reel of t

2009-01-14 Thread Barry Say
On 14 Jan 2009 at 13:24, Matt Seattle wrote: Song No 289 Scots Musical Museum (see Note in GNTB - this is what the Notes are there for, hint hint!). Thanks Matt, Personally, I think it would be a good idea if information such as you and others have assembled in the notes to GNTB and other

[NSP] Oops typos

2009-01-14 Thread Barry Say
For Reel of Tullochgoram Thomas Wilson's read Reel of Tullochgoram in Thomas Wilson's For unch read bunch For tases read tastes Sorry Folks, not good enough. (Slaps own wrist and removes egg from face) Barry To get on or off this list see list information at

[NSP] Re: Jimmy Allan traditional (?)

2009-01-13 Thread Barry Say
a rant or a reel and he thought it important to choose the appropriate rhythm when playing in competition. Barry Say I admit to misunderstanding the point being raised but lets face it even the title REEL of Tullochgorum is misleading as a title as the tune is a RANT and not a reel so he

[NSP] Re: Reel of t

2009-01-13 Thread Barry Say
Hi Dave, You are perfectly correct and the words fit perfectly to the tune Tullochgorum which appears in the Peacock collection 180?. So that all ties together. The Reel of Tullochgorum / Jimmy Allen tune is entirely different but I don't want to revisit that one just now. Barry On 13 Jan

[NSP] Re: Jimmy Allan traditional (?)

2009-01-12 Thread Barry Say
and not? contemporanious with the subject. Now there is something that would be worth investigating. Colin R -Original Message- From: Barry Say lt;barr...@nspipes.co.ukgt; To: nsp lt;nsp@cs.dartmouth.edugt; Sent: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 20:17 Subject: [NSP] Jimmy Allan

[NSP] Jimmy Allan traditional (?)

2009-01-11 Thread Barry Say
Hi All, This is a follow-up to an earlier e-mail. As editor of the NPS Magazine, I was well aware of the content of Chris Ormston's article well before the NPS membership or the wider piping community. I refrained from commenting on it or saying anything related to it until the magazine was

[NSP] Re: Correct grade of oi l?

2008-10-27 Thread Barry Say
On 27 Oct 2008 at 10:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use neatsfoot and have had no problems. c I heartily endorse Christopher's opinion. However, the quality of the neatsfoot is of paramount importance. There is a lot of inferior stuff on the market. I think we should be talking only about

[NSP] Re: g set

2007-05-29 Thread Barry Say
the centre back of the chanter, allowing a flat area on the back of the chanter for the thumb. When I transferred from a 7 key to a 17 key chanter, the intrusion of the Bb block into the area where the the right thumb rested on the back of the chanter was the greatest difficulty I faced. Barry Say

[NSP] NPS Monday meetings

2007-05-07 Thread Barry Say
/program.htm where they will find information about the 'Monday' meetings. (The next one is on the 14th of May. Barry Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Which way should drone reed tongues face?

2006-08-26 Thread Barry Say
think this is due to the larger drone 'stealing' air from the smaller, but that is merely my guess. Thats my tuppenyworth. Barry Say -- B J Say Smallpipes - http://www.nspipes.co.uk Making and Repairing Bagpipes in the Northumbrian Tradition

[NSP] Maintaining NSP standards

2006-05-20 Thread Barry . Say
standards. Barry Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[NSP] Re: Northumbrian headdress

2006-02-23 Thread Barry . Say
://www.mrflag.com/p/5212/EnglandNorthumberland.html 18x12in cost 22 UKP 180x90 in cost 217 UKP Barry Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html