A good old tune, for sure, but what does the title mean?
If a song, has anyone the words?
Dolly an historical figure?
The web is silent on her.
I can find only (OED):
cut and dried (also cut and dry): originally referring to herbs in the
herbalists' shops, as contrasted with growing herbs;
Snap!
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From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Ian Lawther
Sent: 16 September 2009 17:14
To: Richard Leach
Cc: Dartmouth
Subject: [NSP] Re: Cut and Dry Dolly
Pure speculation but is there a chance that cut and dry herbs were
On 16 Sep 2009 at 15:11, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
But no light on what the title meant - until someone turns up some song
lyrics, we are probably left with guesswork as the best way of working
out that one.
Lyrics to a different tune:
Fresh Aw cum frrae Sandgate Street
For some reason, lost in the labyrinths of time, I believed the cut and dry
dolly to be a small peat stack, ready to be taken from the moor for burning.
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From: Richard Leach r...@richux.plus.com
To: Dartmouth nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009
On 16 Sep 2009 at 15:11, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
But no light on what the title meant - until someone turns up some song
lyrics, we are probably left with guesswork as the best way of working
out that one.
Lyrics to a different tune:
Fresh Aw cum frrae Sandgate Street
On 16 Sep 2009 at 15:11, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
But no light on what the title meant - until someone turns up some song
lyrics, we are probably left with guesswork as the best way of working
out that one.
Lyrics to a different tune:
Fresh Aw cum frrae Sandgate Street
Can anyone with access to an OED or a Northumbrian dialect dictionary
check this possible meaning of 'dolly' = peat-stack? It would be
plausible enough if 'dolly' used to hold this meaning. Though is 'a
small peat stack, ready to be taken from the moor for burning' a likely
topic
On 16 Sep 2009, gibbonssoi...@aol.com wrote:
is 'a small peat stack, ready to be taken from the moor for
burning' a likely topic for a popular song?
It's possibly a likely title for a tune frequently played by someone
not noted for the honesty of his waysdry peat would be a
Doll: a portion, large piece of anything, frequently dung
Dolly: an old fashioned oil-lamp, a cruisie
The Concise Scots Dictionary, Aberdeen U. Press, 1985
It's strangely reassuring that Cut and Dry Dolly is a mystery to so many
people.
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From:
Perhaps if we take the John Bell version (on FARNE) as the basic tune,
the tag at the middle and end of the strain has the rhythm
| qq c qq q...|
this would fit ...|Cut and Dry Do-ol-ly ...|
But you need to stretch the first syllable of Dolly across two notes.
These 2
A couple of other meanings in [1]http://www.dsl.ac.uk/
but none that seem to fit the Cut and Dry context convincingly.
John
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References
1. http://www.dsl.ac.uk/
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